about marriage with Protestant and Roman Catholric

[j***@gmail.com]

Hi. Hope someone else will help me about this matter.

I was seperated with my girlfriend after we failed to get agreement
about our religion.

It was quite wired that they parents wanted me to change my religion.
They are all Catholic.
No doubt, my reply is "No" They suggested me to take some revised plan.
I can marriage with my current identity on the condition that I must
sign to the letter which certify that " This man, although not a Roman
Catholic, but will be in near future. So this marriage is acceptable"

Some people may know, Roman Catholic has better reputation than
protestant due to their welll known social contribution and charitable
work.(Maybe just in korea). But protestant open discribe as the greedy
or insane. I don't know why but everyday Newspapers and websites are
dealing dirty gossips about some pastor and protestand who was reported
as criminal.

Many people around me said that I may accept their proposal and It's
better to be a Roman catholic than remaining as protestant. I know I
can't but I don't know how to say about this.

Should protestant keep his identity? or Can it be changable according
to situation?

Maybe thngs like this just in Korea case?

Thank you

June.(from Korea)

[l***@hotmail.com]

Post by j***@gmail.com
Some people may know, Roman Catholic has better reputation than
protestant due to their welll known social contribution and charitable
work.(Maybe just in korea). But protestant open discribe as the greedy
or insane. I don't know why but everyday Newspapers and websites are
dealing dirty gossips about some pastor and protestand who was reported
as criminal.

And which would the world system sooner choose to deride and
mock. That which is a heresy or that which is Divine. The world
accepts its own. "Truth forever on the scaffold, wrong forever on
the throne." Satan wants people to believe in "The Lie" and so
will his servant, the world system.

Post by j***@gmail.com
Many people around me said that I may accept their proposal and It's
better to be a Roman catholic than remaining as protestant. I know I
can't but I don't know how to say about this.

Don't say anything. Take it to the Lord in prayer! Let Him give you
your answer. What does the Spirit of God living within you testify
to? Do you sense peace about this? I think not otherwise you
wouldn't have posted this. I think rather you want some sort of
majority vote to do what you already known is wrong.

Rom. 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned. . .whatever is not
from faith is sin.

Post by j***@gmail.com
Should protestant keep his identity? or Can it be changable according
to situation?

It's not about keeping one's "identity." It is all about conforming to
the Truth. Is there no salvation outside of Christ or outside of the
Roman Catholic denomination? Are we called to place out faith
in Christ or some ecclesiological establishment? The Bible
speaks against monolithic establishments from the time of Babel
to the time of the one world religious establishment of the Anti-
christ. There is no biblical teaching which places all Christians
under one banner except that banner be Christ.

Protestants are called "protesters" for a reason. We protest
the whole issue of salvation by works and faith in an ecclessiastical
establishment instead of God Himself.

Post by j***@gmail.com
Maybe thngs like this just in Korea case?

No, June. This is not so just in Korea. Truth applies to
the angels in heaven as well as man on earth.

Here is a website where you can download for free something
which you might find helpful. I have read many of his books
and have found him to be a great blessing.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/nee/normal.html

[Red]

Post by j***@gmail.com
Should protestant keep his identity? or Can it be changable according
to situation?
Maybe thngs like this just in Korea case?
From a Catholic: no, do not change your religion just because someone

wants you to. That is a bad way to start a marriage. Also you would
be living a lie if you did it against your will.

Here in the USA, Catholics and non-Catholics can marry as long as the
non-Catholic states that he/she will not oppose the children being
raised Catholic. There is no rule that the non-Catholic must convert
to being a Catholic. Your country may have different rules.

Catholics do have a better reputation for helping the needy, but when
it comes to belief in God, I do not think there is any difference.

-Red

[l***@hotmail.com]

Post by Red
Here in the USA, Catholics and non-Catholics can marry as long as the
non-Catholic states that he/she will not oppose the children being
raised Catholic. There is no rule that the non-Catholic must convert
to being a Catholic. Your country may have different rules.

No, this is not entirely true. It really depends on the individual
RCC.
My brother was required to sign a document that the children would
attend both the RCC and the RC school system. He was also
required to provide a pay check stub to determine his tithe. That
individual priest also told my brother that he would not marry them
until he attended at least half of the indoctrination class for
becoming a RC. So it not a matter of country.

Post by Red
Catholics do have a better reputation for helping the needy, but when
it comes to belief in God, I do not think there is any difference.

Well there might be a simple explaination for this. They are works
oriented. Another explaination is that the RCC is a monolithic
corporation. i.e. easily observable when it wants to be.

The Protestant churches, on the other hand, are none of these.
They operate individually. Over the last 30 years I have been very
active in about 4 Protestant churches. I can tell you this, that
for a church of about 75 members, we had a missionary budget
just over $65,000. When the tornado came through our town,
many spent vacations helping the needy. We raised several
thousand dollars after people began building their homes and
having contractors get half finished then taking the remaining
money and vanishing. We had a very large and time intensive
food pantry. Elder board meetings often had votes on giving
this or that family money to help them get by during a tough
period in their lives -and nearly all this were for people who had
no affiliation with our church.

So it is something of a misnomer to say that the RCC is a
greater giver than Protestant churches collectively.

[Red]

Post by l***@hotmail.com

Post by Red
Here in the USA, Catholics and non-Catholics can marry as long as the
non-Catholic states that he/she will not oppose the children being
raised Catholic. There is no rule that the non-Catholic must convert
to being a Catholic. Your country may have different rules.

No, this is not entirely true. It really depends on the individual
RCC.
My brother was required to sign a document that the children would
attend both the RCC and the RC school system. He was also
required to provide a pay check stub to determine his tithe. That
individual priest also told my brother that he would not marry them
until he attended at least half of the indoctrination class for
becoming a RC. So it not a matter of country.

Probably true, with an explaination. RC children are supposed to attend
religious education. If the church has an associated school, the
children get that education at the school. If no associated school, the
churches provide religious education similar to the typical sunday
school classes in other churches. If the RCC has an associated school,
the parents are asked to pay a "fair share" tuition, hence the pay
check stub request. Although that is not a typical request, it
certainly is within the perogative of the local priest. I imagine many
would tell him where to stick that request and change churches, which
is within the perogative of the parishoner.

Post by l***@hotmail.com

Post by Red
Catholics do have a better reputation for helping the needy, but when
it comes to belief in God, I do not think there is any difference.

Well there might be a simple explaination for this. They are works
oriented. Another explaination is that the RCC is a monolithic
corporation. i.e. easily observable when it wants to be.
The Protestant churches, on the other hand, are none of these.

...

Post by l***@hotmail.com
money and vanishing. We had a very large and time intensive
food pantry. Elder board meetings often had votes on giving
this or that family money to help them get by during a tough

...

As you said, it is within the desires & abilities of the individual
churches. Within our community, the local RCC has a much greater
reputation for local area help, while several of the protestant
churches provide much more to their missions.

[* irenic *]

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Hi June (I'm assuming you are male, though June is mostly a girl's name in
Western countries)

Post by j***@gmail.com
Hi. Hope someone else will help me about this matter.
I was seperated with my girlfriend after we failed to get agreement
about our religion.
It was quite wired that they parents wanted me to change my religion.
They are all Catholic.
No doubt, my reply is "No" They suggested me to take some revised plan.
I can marriage with my current identity on the condition that I must
sign to the letter which certify that " This man, although not a Roman
Catholic, but will be in near future. So this marriage is acceptable"

If you feel 'no doubt' then obviously this marriage would not work. You are
not only marrying a person, you marry into a family - in this case a very
conservative one. There would be trouble for everyone if this went ahead...

Post by j***@gmail.com
Some people may know, Roman Catholic has better reputation than
protestant due to their welll known social contribution and charitable
work.(Maybe just in korea). But protestant open discribe as the greedy
or insane. I don't know why but everyday Newspapers and websites are
dealing dirty gossips about some pastor and protestand who was reported
as criminal.

Some Protestants are bad, even criminal, and some may be greedy and a few
may be insane... The same is true of Roman Catholics: there are now Catholic
priest-pedophiles in prisons all over the world

Post by j***@gmail.com
Many people around me said that I may accept their proposal and It's
better to be a Roman catholic than remaining as protestant. I know I
can't but I don't know how to say about this.

Why are you a Protestant? Have you talked with a more open-minded Catholic
priest? (There are some, in all countries).

Post by j***@gmail.com
Should protestant keep his identity? or Can it be changable according
to situation?

You were probably born into a Protestant family: but it would be better if
your 'identity' was a result of your personal choice, after thinking and
praying about it.

Post by j***@gmail.com
Maybe thngs like this just in Korea case?

No, I have been involved in similar pastoral situations

Post by j***@gmail.com
Thank you
June.(from Korea)

All the best!

[b***@dodo.com.au]

I am Catholic, but I used to be Protestant. My wife is Protestant.
However our situation is different in that when we married we were both
Protestant. To be honest, I am not sure what would have happened had
I been Catholic when we met.

For all the ecumenicism around today, there is still a considerable
gulf between lay Catholics and Protestants. They may rub along
together quite well in ordinary day to day life, but once fundamental
issues are discussed, the hackles rise pretty quickly.

What I have found as a convert to Catholicism is that there are a lot
of uninformed untruths told by Protestants about the Catholic Church
and Catholics eg. we worship statues, worship Mary, crucify Christ at
every Mass. I haven't seen anybody bow down before a statue in 10
years as a Catholic, haven't seen anybody worship Mary and we don't
crucify Christ every Mass. We do hold Mary in high esteem. Through
her we have such gems as her saying at the wedding at Cana - "Do
whatever he (Christ) tells you" and from Christ when she was at the
foot of the cross, "Behold, your mother".

The Catholic Church is quite strong on "works", in line with James'
epistle, "I will show you my faith by my works". Christ's ministry
featured an enormous number of works, although in His case He had the
advantage of miracles in healing the sick, feeding the hungry, and
driving out demons. But there is considerable work done by Protestant
agencies as well.

I know what I believe about the Catholic Church and the continued and
disobedient division of Christ's body, the Church. That said, the
choice is up to you, and ultimately, your girlfriend.

We can give you all the advice in the world, but the final decision is
up to the pair of you.

[Burkladies]

But protestant open discribe as the greedy or insane.

I don't know why but everyday Newspapers and websites are
dealing dirty gossips about some pastor and protestand who was reported
as criminal. > I do not think pastors know what they are doing.

Bishops and pope have been harboring criminals while covering up their
dirt from their flocks. One of the largest problems is in Los Angeles
where I live. Mahoney and his cathedral.
Roman Catholic has better reputation than > protestant due to their
welll known social contribution and charitable

work.(Maybe just in korea) It is just in Korea so far as I know.