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Unexpected twists
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Jacob
2008-10-28 01:00:10 UTC
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We know how Peter asserted confidently before Jesus how he would never
leave Him even if everyone else did (Mt.26:33). He declared that he
was even willing to die for Jesus (v.35). He was not boasting, but he
meant it sincerely. We see that even when all the other disciples left
Jesus and went away, Peter followed Him around, even though at a
distance (v.56,58). When soldiers came to capture Jesus, Peter took
out his sword and attacked, demonstrating his desire to protect his
Master at the risk of losing his own life (Jn.18:10). Then came the
unexpected twist to the story. A servant girl confronted him about his
association with Jesus, and Peter made the first of his three denials
(Mt.26:69,70).

What could have happened? Perhaps he was preparing himself in his mind
about what all he could do to save Jesus and was not expecting this
turn of events. It took him by surprise, and he may have reacted in
his normal impulse of self-preservation.

We know also about David, the psalmist of Israel who knew the Lord
intimately even from childhood, who became the young man who did
exploits through faith. Now he was king and his mind was occupied with
matters of kingdoms which were fighting with Israel. One afternoon he
took a walk on his terrace, thinking about the things that were
pressing his mind. Suddenly he saw a woman bathing, his feelings got
aroused, and he fell into adultery. Can't we assume that David would
not have done such a thing in the normal course of his life? But this
was an unexpected twist.

If we have any experience with life, we know that life has many
unexpected turns for which we are not prepared. Many times we are
caught in a tresspass because the temptation catches us off guard.
Isn't there a way around this, so that we don't have to fall?

The answer is from Jesus Himself who has the distinction of not having
fallen even once even though Satan tried all his tricks to trap Jesus.
Jesus said that we need to watch and pray in order to avoid falling
into temptation (Mt.26:41). We have to be on the alert at all times
(Ep.6:18) because the devil is waiting around the corner to catch us
(1Pe.5:8). We are not careful all the time, are we? When things are
peaceful we assume that it is going to continue like that! We may even
think that now finally the time of God's favour has come and we are
safe! But God warns us saying that we have to be all the more careful
at such times (1Co.10:12).

The other thing is to pray. Prayer is an acknowledgment of weakness
and need. We recognise that however clever we are, we are no match for
Satan who is most brilliant and who has been studying and deceiving
people for thousands of years. We cannot outsmart him or anticipate
what he will do. The only way we can be safe is by depending on God to
be our Protector. Even if our heart were entirely right, which we
can't be sure of always, our flesh is weak. That is why Jesus has told
us to pray (Mt.26:41).
DKleinecke
2008-10-29 01:49:14 UTC
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Post by Jacob
We know how Peter asserted confidently before Jesus how he would never
leave Him even if everyone else did (Mt.26:33). He declared that he
was even willing to die for Jesus (v.35). He was not boasting, but he
meant it sincerely. We see that even when all the other disciples left
Jesus and went away, Peter followed Him around, even though at a
distance (v.56,58).
If you accept the idea that the two "thieves" who were crucified with
Jesus were James and John the sons of Zebedee there was a time,
probably brief, where Peter was the only adult male follower of Jesus.
This also assumes that the "beloved disciple" was either wholly
imaginary or a pre-adolescent boy.

I think the early Christians, but not Jesus himself, were quite male
chauvinistic enough to discount the women and look on Peter as the
only one who did not desert.

Then came the resurrection.
B
2008-11-04 02:08:24 UTC
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Post by DKleinecke
Post by Jacob
We know how Peter asserted confidently before Jesus how he would never
leave Him even if everyone else did (Mt.26:33). He declared that he
was even willing to die for Jesus (v.35). He was not boasting, but he
meant it sincerely. We see that even when all the other disciples left
Jesus and went away, Peter followed Him around, even though at a
distance (v.56,58).
If you accept the idea that the two "thieves" who were crucified with
Jesus were James and John the sons of Zebedee there was a time,
probably brief, where Peter was the only adult male follower of Jesus.
This also assumes that the "beloved disciple" was either wholly
imaginary or a pre-adolescent boy.
I think the early Christians, but not Jesus himself, were quite male
chauvinistic enough to discount the women and look on Peter as the
only one who did not desert.
Then came the resurrection.
B - Yes so many of us forget one of his most devoted of followers and
in my opinion and belief, his wife, Mary Magdelene. In my opinion.
Blessings and Love Bren

B
2008-11-04 02:08:23 UTC
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On Oct 27, 5:00=A0pm, Jacob <***@gmail.com> wrote:
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We recognise that however clever we are, we are no match for
Post by Jacob
Satan who is most brilliant and who has been studying and deceiving
people for thousands of years. We cannot outsmart him or anticipate
what he will do. The only way we can be safe is by depending on God to
be our Protector. Even if our heart were entirely right, which we
can't be sure of always, our flesh is weak. That is why Jesus has told
us to pray (Mt.26:41).
B - I don't believe that Ha-Satan or the ego which is the adversary is
more brilliant than we because there is no "we" there is only God and
that belief in"we" is a problem and by product of Satan. If we access
God within, then yes we will always be guided to what is right and
what is light. We agree but to a point ..I would suspect it is our
concepts of "Satan" and "us,we,I" that are different. IN my opinion
only. Blessings Bren
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