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When will "atheists" get the message?
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DevCarter
2007-02-08 03:31:38 UTC
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When will "atheists" get the message?
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There is a
god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is manifested as a group reinforced psychological delusion.

God belief is an altered state of mind- a deluded psychology of mind.

People accept that mental illness is a reality, why not accept theism
for what it is- a highly valued, positively sanctioned mental illness
that can be used as a tool for social control.

The Egyptians and the Jews stumbled upon the fact that social
acceptance- being one of the crowd, is the primary human goal, given
that ignorance and superstition is the natural human condition, sans a
secular education.

Monotheism provided the requisite viciousness for group solidarity; it
upped the ante to the limit, giving apostates and heretics the option
of conformity and lip-service to the keepers of an uncompromising
monotheism or death.

All ruling elites need do is ensure the masses are not educated beyond
the level of slavish servitude - hence their love of the creationist
"intelligent design" rather than secular Darwinism in the curriculum,
and their funding of theist education rather than secular education.

Given this power to brainwash the young, "evil" may be anything that
the ruling elite care to demonize, "crime" may be any act that
threatens its acquisitions and rights of the plutocrats to acquire
more.

The Jews, via the Ancient Egyptians understood the power of
monotheism- they learned that ruling elites keep the masses ignorant
to satisfy vested interests. Elites feed them religion- miracles, pie
in the sky, any disingenuous bait, they, given their condition of
ignorance and fear, lap up like mana from heaven.

Just how many millions have died as a result of monotheistic terror,
is anyone's guess. Nevertheless, hundreds still die each day as a
consequence of ingrained monotheist ignorance and superstition readily
exploited by the plutocratic elite for its own ends.

The opponents of "theism" are not atheists but secularists. Secularism
is a revolutionary movement for those liberated from plutocratic
brainwashing and theist mind control, whereas 'atheism' is a label for
the lost and bewildered that fancy that they have rejected theism, but
haven't a clue about the true nature of "theism" or what to do next.

Arguing with theists is like arguing with Hitler's SS and the Nazi
quislings that gave him full support, or Stalin's gulag exterminators-
the brainwash zombies too moronic and bestial to have any capacity for
reason.

Plutocracy- our extant elite, who seek to rule the world using theist
propaganda, are the true enemy of secularists. So called "atheists" do
not bother debating with children about fairies at the bottom of the
garden. They choose not to be labelled "afairyists" or enter pointless
debates as "asantaclausists", "alittlegreenmenists", "aleprechaunists"
or any other nonsense that fills empty minds.

Why does theism suck them in?

It takes learning to understand the implication of Darwin's theory of
evolution- that 'man' is a 'risen' primate, not a 'fallen angel'!
There was no 'garden of Eden" except in the propaganda stream of
monotheism!

When brainwashed in ignorance, theists become the running-dogs of
plutocracy, the henchmen who impose plutocratic rule via imperial and
colonial "terror" that is euphemistically called "justice" or 'law and
order'.

There is a "secularist liberation", but membership is only open to
those whose consciousness is elevated by education beyond that of a
self-labelling "atheist".

Self-labelled "atheists" are just as likely to become cannon fodder as
theist reactionaries in service to western Plutocracy in its current
imperial and colonial struggles with Islamists, defending their land
and resources from western encroachment.

Secularists understand that one less running-dog in service to
plutocracy, irrespective of whether labelled "theist" or "atheist", is
one less opponent of secularist liberation.

A secularist is one committed to the synthesis of reason and ideology.
Secularism is the true fundamentalism- the only system of belief that
opposes the dualist opportunism that is destroying our natural
environment and creating economic, political and social chaos around
the globe.

Dev carter
b***@juno.com
2007-02-13 02:49:05 UTC
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Post by DevCarter
There is a
god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is. But it is better to use a captial G for God.
Post by DevCarter
It is manifested as a group reinforced psychological delusion.
Nope. Atheism is the delusion. According to atheism, everything in the
entire universe "just happened." This is quite laughable.

In atheism, everything that exists is just atoms. In atheism, only
atoms exist, with nothing spiritual at all. As Einstein said, energy
is just another form of atoms (e=mc2).

According to atheism, these dead atoms magically sprang to life in the
case of the first living cell. Then these dead atoms became self aware
with the first human brain. These dead atoms went on to invent the
internet, and then some of these dead atoms started posting on
newsgroups to try and prove that everything just happened. Ha ha ha.
That is a good fairy tale. Thanks for the laugh, atheists!
Post by DevCarter
People accept that mental illness is a reality, why not accept theism
for what it is- a highly valued, positively sanctioned mental illness
that can be used as a tool for social control.
Since Christianity has always been based on grace, rather than law, it
is the exact opposite of a good method for social control. The only
time when Christianity works as a tool for social control, is when it
looses its emphasis on grace, and reverts to a pseudo-Jewish emphasis
on law.
Post by DevCarter
Monotheism provided the requisite viciousness for group solidarity; it
upped the ante to the limit, giving apostates and heretics the option
of conformity and lip-service to the keepers of an uncompromising
monotheism or death.
Spoken like a good marxist. Unfortunately, you fail to take into
account the actual content of the Christian message, which is based on
grace, the exact opposite of legalistic social control. Thanks for
playing, though.
Post by DevCarter
All ruling elites need do is ensure the masses are not educated beyond
the level of slavish servitude - hence their love of the creationist
"intelligent design" rather than secular Darwinism in the curriculum,
and their funding of theist education rather than secular education.
Interestingly, when atheism is tried, such as in the USSR, history
records what REAL slavish servitude is like. To the tune of 20 million
dead in the Ukraine. Thanks, I think I will take freedom of the kind
you find in the USA.
Post by DevCarter
Given this power to brainwash the young, "evil" may be anything that
the ruling elite care to demonize, "crime" may be any act that
threatens its acquisitions and rights of the plutocrats to acquire
more.
Yep. Like when atheists decide to demonize "kulaks" in the Ukraine,
which justified the klling of 20 million. I recommend that you stop
putting your foot into your mouth. Atheism has the bloodiest history
ever. Atheism has killed far more than Christianity. The two don't
even compare.
Post by DevCarter
The Jews, via the Ancient Egyptians understood the power of
monotheism- they learned that ruling elites keep the masses ignorant
to satisfy vested interests. Elites feed them religion- miracles, pie
in the sky, any disingenuous bait, they, given their condition of
ignorance and fear, lap up like mana from heaven.
Ah, I see. The entire basis of Western Civ was a gigantic lie. This
lie was perpetuated for genaration after generation, until at last in
the 21st century we have ripped off the mask at last.

By an amazing coincidence, even though Western Civ was based on an
enormous lie, it still was able to magically dominate the entire
planet. Hmmm. Whereas, when the "truth" of atheism was tried in the
USSR, for some bizzarre reason, the whole society collapsed in a
spectacular ball of flames.

Apparently, theist "lies" work better than atheist "truth." Quite an
amazing coincidence. Certainly counter-intuitive, to say the least.
One would expect the truth to work better than the lies. But according
to you, the lie of theism works better than the truth of atheism.
Hmmmmm.
Post by DevCarter
Just how many millions have died as a result of monotheistic terror,
is anyone's guess. Nevertheless, hundreds still die each day as a
consequence of ingrained monotheist ignorance and superstition readily
exploited by the plutocratic elite for its own ends.
Actually, there is something known as the "historical record" which,
if you bother to check it, will give you a good estimate for the
monotheistic deaths. Likewise with the king of all bloody terrors,
atheism.
Post by DevCarter
The opponents of "theism" are not atheists but secularists. Secularism
is a revolutionary movement for those liberated from plutocratic
brainwashing and theist mind control, whereas 'atheism' is a label for
the lost and bewildered that fancy that they have rejected theism, but
haven't a clue about the true nature of "theism" or what to do next.
This paragraph is roughly 100 years out of date. Sorry, atheism has
been tried, and found wanting. Ever hear of Stalin? Pol Pot? Lenin? I
recommend that you read up on the history of the 20th century. The
20th century was the century in which atheism was tried in large
sectors of the world. Result? Bloodiest century ever, bar none.
Post by DevCarter
Arguing with theists is like arguing with Hitler's SS and the Nazi
quislings that gave him full support, or Stalin's gulag exterminators-
the brainwash zombies too moronic and bestial to have any capacity for
reason.
So why are you doing it? Since your entire argument rests upon false
premises, did it ever occur to you that perhaps false premises lead to
false conclusions? Furthermore, are you aware that refering to Hitler
and the Nazis is a tired, threadbare cliche, that has sunk to the
level of basic fallacy (fallacy ad nazium?)

And isn't it ironic that you mention Stalin, the atheist par
excellance? You are undermining your own rant.
Post by DevCarter
Plutocracy- our extant elite, who seek to rule the world using theist
propaganda, are the true enemy of secularists. So called "atheists" do
not bother debating with children about fairies at the bottom of the
garden. They choose not to be labelled "afairyists" or enter pointless
debates as "asantaclausists", "alittlegreenmenists", "aleprechaunists"
or any other nonsense that fills empty minds.
Since "fairies" and "santa claus" and "green men" have never been the
bases of world civilizations, it is a false analogy to try and compare
them to God.
Post by DevCarter
Why does theism suck them in?
Because theism is an actual basis of our Western Civilization. But you
knew that already, and you were just trying to make a cheap rhetorical
point, weren't you?
Post by DevCarter
When brainwashed in ignorance, theists become the running-dogs of
plutocracy, the henchmen who impose plutocratic rule via imperial and
colonial "terror" that is euphemistically called "justice" or 'law and
order'.
Um, yeah. And when atheists become the running dogs of the communist
plutocracy, what type of "justice" became prevalent in the USSR? The
type of "justice" that required the famous joke of Ronald Reagan:
"Trust, but verify!"

When lying atheists have the levers of power, things get very
frightening indeed. The 20th century has shown this for all time and
eternity.
Post by DevCarter
There is a "secularist liberation", but membership is only open to
those whose consciousness is elevated by education beyond that of a
self-labelling "atheist".
This distinction is not only invalid. It is completely laughable
propaganda, and nobody is buying it.
Post by DevCarter
A secularist is one committed to the synthesis of reason and ideology.
Secularism is the true fundamentalism- the only system of belief that
opposes the dualist opportunism that is destroying our natural
environment and creating economic, political and social chaos around
the globe.
Secularism is the source of the modern malaise. As Solzhenitsyn said,
"Men have fogotten God."

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