"Let There Be Light"

[Elder(:)Child]

"Let There Be Light"


"In The Beginning" The One GOD, Father of ALL said,
"Let There Be Light, and there was Light"


The Messiah, "The Beginning of the Creation of GOD(Father of All)"!
And The Messiah's GOD and Father is The GOD and Father of His
Brethren.



It is very important to both experience and know The Messiah as He was
and is, and also to know the "glory He had with Our Father" before He
was born in "the likeness of sinful flesh".


i realize there will be those who consider what i have received to be
but another "doctrine" of mankind's "imag"ination, yet I believe The
Truth is against any theo'ry'logical doctrine. And if i err concerning
that which i believe i have received, i know and am persuaded that Our
Father will reveal such, and once again bestow the mercy and
forgiveness needful for such as i.


If what follows offends you, then please forgive me for i did not
intend to offend, just to share that which i believe i have "seen and
heard".


First, let me simply state that i believe the "catholic/christian"
systems of religious theo'ry'logy are Anti-Messiah for they either
make The Messiah one-head of a three-headed "god", or they declare Him
to be "god", or believe Him to be but an exalted messenger(angel).
Simply, there is but "One GOD, Father of ALL" and The Messiah
testified that His GOD and His Father, was also The GOD and Father of
His Brethren. "Let There Be Light"!


The Messiah simply testified in John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify
Me with YOUR own self with the glory that I had with YOU before the
world began".



Prior to that testimony The Messiah testified in John 12:35-36, "Then
The Messiah said unto them, "Yet a little while is The Light with you.
Walk while you have The Light, lest darkness comes upon you: for he
that walks in darkness does not know where he goes. While you have
Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the children of Light.""


And the apostle John testified: "In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with GOD, and the Word was(not is) GOD. The same was in
the beginning with GOD. All things were made by Him; and without Him
was not any thing made that was made. In Him was life; and the life
was the Light of men. And The Light shined in darkness; and the
darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from GOD, whose
name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of The
Light, that all men through Him might believe. He(John the baptist)
was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That
was the True Light, which enlightens every man that comes into the
world. He(The Messiah) was in the world, and the world was made by
Him, and the world knew Him not. He came unto His own, and His own
received Him not. But as many as received Him, to them gave He power
to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on His name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of
the will of man, but of The Only True GOD."



And the apostle John testified in John 3:17-21: "For Our Father sent
not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world
through him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned:
but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of Our Father. And this
is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved
darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every
one that does evil hates The Light, neither comes to The Light, lest
his deeds should be reproved. But he that does Truth comes to The
Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in
Our Father."



In John 12:34 the people asked, "who is this Son of man? Then in John
12:35-36, "The Messiah said unto them, yet a little while is The Light
with you. Walk while you have The Light, lest darkness come upon you:
for he that walks in darkness does not know where he goes. While you
have Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the children of
Light. The Messiah spoke these things, and departed, and hid Himself
from them."



Simply, "in the beginning" The Only True GOD spoke The Word, "Let
There Be Light"....... and there was Light! Certainly that was not
"natural" light for "natural" light, the sun, moon, and stars were not
created until the "fourth day".



"In the beginning", "The First Day", The Father of All created "The
Light", without which Creation Life, as we now know and experience it,
could not have been.



The First Day, The Messiah, "The beginning of the Creation of GOD(HE
WHO is The Only True GOD and Father of ALL)"!



And "The Light which enlightens every man born into the world", was
born as a child destined to be The Messiah.



The Messiah, "The Light of the world".



The Messiah, "The firstborn of every creature".



The Messiah,"The firstborn among many brethren".



The Messiah, "The firstborn from among the dead".



The Messiah, "A servant of The Only True GOD".



Once again: "in the beginning" Our Father spoke: "Let there be Light,
and there was Light"!



The Messiah, "The Beginning of the Creation of GOD", "the firstborn of
every creature".......



HalleluYAH!



The Messiah, "The Light of the world"!



Sadly, those of this world yet love darkness rather than The Light.


Worse yet, the religious systems of this world such as "catholicism",
"christianity", "judaism", "islam",.etc., have so perverted The
Testimonies, that today, as in the yesterdays gone by, "The Way of
Truth is evil spoken of" because of their theo'ry'logical, heretical
doctrines that are of men, and especially those theo'ry'logical
doctrines which seek to define The Only True GOD, Father of All.



All such doctrines are but the product of mankind's "imag"ination and
mankind's "imag"ination is responsible for the destruction of
Creation(earth,air ,water,creatures,Truth,Love,Peace,Joy,Hope,.etc.)



Yes, sadly ;-( Creation is being destroyed by self-willed men who
could care less about that which is, and care even less about those
things which they can not comprehend apart from their "natural" non-
sense-ical reasoning ;-(



And Truth testifies, The Creator "will destroy those who destroy the
earth(HIS Creation)"(Rev 11:18).



And in this wicked world, those who seek profit will naturally
overcome those who do not ;-(


Yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope! For Miracles do
happen and Faith rejoices against theo'ry'logy(logic) and
profit(greed)!


Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is
"receiving a love of The Truth" for they will "see" "The Light".


And they will receive peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that
is of this world, for they will clearly "see" this world and it's
systems of religion as they are, and not as mankind would have them to
be.



They will clearly "see" that "The WHOLE world is under the control of
the evil one" and that this world's systems of theo'ry'logical
religion are all Anti-Messiah(Anti-Light), indeed and Truth.......
Francisco

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by Elder(:)Child
"Let There Be Light"
"In The Beginning" The One GOD, Father of ALL said,
"Let There Be Light, and there was Light"

You have only just started your post, and already you have revealed
what poison you are offering by tampering with Scripture. What
Scripture _really_ says is:

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Now the earth
was unformed and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and
the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters. And God said:
'Let there be light.' And there was light. (Gen 1:1-3 JPS)

There are SO many differences between this and what you said! And
every one of the differences is important. Most important for this
post, though, is that your wicked interpolation "Father of ALL" is
COMPLETELY FOREIGN TO SCRIPTURE.

This is because as John reveals in John 1:1, the God who created here
was the whole Trinity, not just the Father. This is why he says:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, AND THE WORD
WAS GOD. He was in the beginning with God; all things were made
through him, and WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE.
(Joh 1:1-3 RSVA)

So there you have it: God and the Word are creating _everything_ where
in Gen 1:1 it was God. How is this possible? Because the Word IS God.

Post by Elder(:)Child
The Messiah, "The Beginning of the Creation of GOD(Father of All)"!

Do you take us for fools? Do you really not know how easily we will
see through this? Is that why you are hiding what verses you distort?
Why aren't you giving the verse/translation citations?

Scripture NEVER calls the pre-existing Word "the beginning of the
Creation of God". Jesus Christ is called that, but in reference to His
_human_ nature, since He is the first human to rise from the dead,
showing us the new Creation.

Post by Elder(:)Child
And The Messiah's GOD and Father is The GOD and Father of His
Brethren.
It is very important to both experience and know The Messiah as He was
and is,

So then why do you do the very opposite all throughout this post?

Post by Elder(:)Child
and also to know the "glory He had with Our Father" before He
was born in "the likeness of sinful flesh".

So why are you so busy denying that glory?

Post by Elder(:)Child
i realize there will be those who consider what i have received to be
but another "doctrine" of mankind's "imag"ination,

No doubt there will be. But it is not your doctrine, but the
punctuation that is a perverse product of mankind's imagination. Your
doctrine is too perverse to be the product of mere human
mis-imagination; it is a demonic product.

Post by Elder(:)Child
yet I believe The Truth is against any theo'ry'logical doctrine.

But what you present here has very little to do with "The Truth".

Post by Elder(:)Child
And if i err concerning that which i believe i have received,

You most certainly do err, and very seriously at that.

Post by Elder(:)Child
i know and am persuaded that Our Father will reveal such,

What do you mean 'will' reveal? He already has, many times over the
centuries. But you shut your eyes to all that revelation, don't you?

Post by Elder(:)Child
and once again bestow the mercy and forgiveness needful for such as
i.

The Trinity is merciful. But show repentance before you ask for mercy
and forgiveness.

Post by Elder(:)Child
If what follows offends you, then please forgive me for i did not
intend to offend, just to share that which i believe i have "seen and
heard".

That is a particularly weak and unconvincing disclaimer.

Post by Elder(:)Child
First, let me simply state that i believe the "catholic/christian"
systems of religious theo'ry'logy are Anti-Messiah

And this is the beginning of your terrible error.

Post by Elder(:)Child
for they either make The Messiah one-head of a three-headed "god",

No, a thousand times no! The Trinity is NOT a dogma of any
"three-headed 'god'". That is a perverse distortion of the dogma,
usually used by ignorant or dishonest opponents of the Truth for their
fallacious "straw-man" arguments.

Post by Elder(:)Child
or they declare Him
to be "god", or believe Him to be but an exalted messenger(angel).

Who does this? Only JWs do this today, and nobody with a clue
considers them 'Christian'.

Post by Elder(:)Child
Simply, there is but "One GOD, Father of ALL" and The Messiah
testified that His GOD and His Father, was also The GOD and Father of
His Brethren. "Let There Be Light"!

But this is simply WRONG.

Post by Elder(:)Child
The Messiah simply testified in John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify
Me with YOUR own self with the glory that I had with YOU before the
world began".

Once more you tamper with Scripture to make your point. Many of us in
the NG know better. We know that anyone who needs to tamper with
Scripture to make his point is teaching demonic deception.

What Scripture _really_ says is:

and now, Father, glorify thou me in thy own presence with the glory
which I had with thee before the world was made. (Joh 17:5 RSVA)

Nothing about "with YOUR own self". Again, you are tampering
shamelessly to support your twisted teaching.

Post by Elder(:)Child
Prior to that testimony The Messiah testified in John 12:35-36, "Then
The Messiah said unto them, "Yet a little while is The Light with you.
Walk while you have The Light, lest darkness comes upon you: for he
that walks in darkness does not know where he goes. While you have
Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the children of Light.""

And as long as you deny the Trinity, playing these word-games with
"The Messiah", you are NOT believing in the light, you do NOT know
where you are going, you are NOT a child of Light.

Post by Elder(:)Child
And the apostle John testified: "In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with GOD, and the Word was(not is) GOD.

You miss the point. It should be obvious that if the Word _was_ God,
then since God does not change, the Word is _still_ God.

Post by Elder(:)Child
The same was in the beginning with GOD. All things were made by Him;
and without Him was not any thing made that was made. In Him was
life; and the life was the Light of men. And The Light shined in
darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent
from GOD, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear
witness of The Light, that all men through Him might believe.

Why did you leave out part of the verse here? There is no significant
textual variant here: all _legitimate_ translations include the
"through him", i.e., they read:

He came as a witness, in order to bear witness about the light,
so that all would [come to] believe THROUGH HIM. (Joh 1:7)

Post by Elder(:)Child
He(John the baptist) was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness
of that Light. That was the True Light, which enlightens every man
that comes into the world. He(The Messiah)

Yet again, you tamper shamelessly with the text. 'He' does not refer
to "The Messiah"; it refers to the Word. Of course, the Messiah turns
out to be the Word, but you are ignoring John's obvious intent by
switching the two here.

Post by Elder(:)Child
was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew
Him not. He came unto His own, and His own received Him not. But as
many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of
GOD, even to them that believe on His name: Which were born, not of
blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of
The Only True GOD."

How much longer must you trample on your own credibility by tampering
with the text? It does NOT say "but of the only True God", it says
"but of God".

You have done this far too often now. I am not even going to bother
with the rest of your post, since your shamelessness is so blatant.
[snip]

Post by Elder(:)Child
They will clearly "see" that "The WHOLE world is under the control of
the evil one" and that this world's systems of theo'ry'logical
religion are all Anti-Messiah(Anti-Light), indeed and Truth.......

Judging from the shamelessness of your tampering with Scripture, I
would have to say that it is you who is " Anti-Messiah(Anti-Light),
indeed and Truth"