On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:22:42 -0500 (CDT), Bob
<***@knology.net> spake thusly:
Let me start by saying that you posted a rather
inflaming message in a Christian news group.
I did not "flame you" back, but I did respond
head on and I just want you to understand that
it was not done in anger. :)
I simply find multiple instances of hypocrisy
in your post. It's not you personally. I find this
in the posts of deists in general, since they all
have the same theme, when commenting on
Christianity.
Post by BobIt gives me great peace of mind to know that God
has nothing to do with the Bible!
So you posted in a Christian news group, to tell people
that? Should we go to deist groups and tell you people
how wrong you are and criticize your web pages and
the books that men wrote, that you treat as if they're
your bible, such as the writings of Thomas Paine?
Hypocrisy!
And isn't it interesting that Christians are criticized
whenever they post into any other group, for trying
to win converts and yet, those same complainers
have no problem posting in Christian news groups,
to tell Christians how wrong they are for believing
in what they do. Hypocrisy. (:
You act as if you're rejecting any writing as being
a guide for truth and you call the Bible "man made",
implying that it isn't true and that men made it up
and so, it can't be trusted and then you treat the
writings of men like Thomas Paine as if they speak
"the truth" and should be followed. Where I come
from, that's called hypocrisy. (:
And yet, you call Him "God", because that's what He's
called in the Bible. But since you don't want to admit
that you're not as good as you like to think you are,
you reject the Bible, because it tells you that. So you
steal a name from the Bible and then create your own
God, which is based in part on the God described in
the Bible. Interesting.
So why do deists do this? Because if they don't,
then they have to accept that Christ calls us to
die to ourselves.
I think what's giving you peace of mind, is believing
that you are in control and that you run your own
destiny. That you don't have to submit to God.
Rather, He's just there for you, whenever you want,
for whatever you want and your definition of God,
is someone that wouldn't actually interfere with
your life. God's love, if you even believe in that much,
is Him letting you do whatever you want and He still
says you're okay with Him. Of course, deists in general
do not even believe in a personal God to begin with.
Isn't it interesting how it is that when God would
interfere with what you want to do, you just take Him
out of the way and say He doesn't get involved in our
day to day lives?
And upon what do you base the conclusion that the Bible
is not the word of God? Upon the opinions of men and
you claim that because they say so, it's true and then
claim that because a Christian says it is the word of God
that they're wrong and that it's just the opinion of men.
Again, hypocrisy.
And Robert Johnson does not give any coherent reason
to reject the Bible as divinely inspired.
The truth is, you focus on men and reject Christianity
because of what you have seen men do. Thus, you
judge God by the actions of men.
You are like the man who, when he brings his car to
a garage and the mechanic doesn't do a good job,
rejects the field of automotive repair. In other words,
you would throw away the books on how to properly
repair an automobile, because men didn't repair
your vehicle correctly, never realizing that the field
of automotive repair should not be judge by what
a specific automotive technician did.
And you call that, "thinking" and "reasoning". (:
What you don't realize, is that the field is not judged
because of the actions of the man. Rather, you know
that the actions of that specific man were bad, because
you have the written material to judge the actions of
the man by. Every automotive technician can be bad
at their job. That doesn't mean that the written
material on how to do it properly is not correct.
It means that men are failing to follow the correct
procedures.
I don't judge Christianity by the Inquisitions. Rather,
I judge the Inquisitions by what the New Testament
teaches us that Christianity is. You do the opposite.
Post by BobGod gave us reason, and if we use our God-given
reason we can't help but reject the manmade Bible.
And He said, "Come, let us reason together".
Now why would He say that in the very Bible you reject,
if it wouldn't lead us to accept it?
You say we "can't help but reject the man made Bible".
And yet, I reason and because I reason based upon
facts, I accept it. You reject it based on ignorance
and call that "reason".
Just remember my friend, the most important place
in the Temple that God first told Moses to build was
called the "Holy of Holies". The inner sanctum. And
in it, on top of the Ark of the Covenant, which contained
the Ten Commandments, was the MERCY SEAT.
God is merciful and that includes throughout the
Old Testament. People don't tend to see that, but
it's true. They should take more time to investigate,
rather than just see the wars. They never ask, "Why?".
And the most important question of all, is; What will
you do with Jesus?
And that is a question that I am asking you now
and it is a question that I would appreciate an
answer to, please.
I also have one more question. And that question is,
from where is morality derived from?
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"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34
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"For the word of God is sharper than any two edged sword."
"If the solar system was brought about by an accidental
collision, then the appearance of organic life on this
planet was also an accident and the whole evolution of
man was an accident too. If so, then all our thought
processes are mere accidents - the accidental
by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds
for the materialists' and astronomers' as well as for
anyone else's. But if their thoughts - i.e., of
materialism and astronomy - are merely accidental
by-products, why should we believe them to be true?
I see no reason for believing that one accident
should be able to give a correct account of all
the other accidents." - C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock