Seven Questions

[Frank]

Why is salvation by faith alone
being called the same today
as salvation by faith plus repentance?

Why is salvation by faith alone being professed
but salvation by faith plus repentance
(surrender, submission, commitment)
being used as the invitation to receive Christ?

Why is the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
hardly heard today?

Why do some profess to believe
that Christ is our righteousness for salvation
and then give the invitation to receive Christ
in such a way that people think
that their salvation depends on their repentance?

Why do people today generally see no difference
between repenting because God said to repent
and their trusting in repenting to get to heaven?

Why do those inviting others to receive Christ
not plainly tell people that they must not
trust in anything else other than Christ for salvation?

Why do people today not know
that salvation by faith plus repentance
was what Luther believed BEFORE
the Lord showed him
that salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone?

The answer to all seven: Pray ye therefore
the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth
labourers into his harvest. (Matthew 9:38 KJV)

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http://roines.home.mindspring.com

[B.G. Kent]

Post by Frank
Why is salvation by faith alone
being called the same today
as salvation by faith plus repentance?

B - do you mean by those that run the church? or God itself?

Post by Frank
Why is salvation by faith alone being professed
but salvation by faith plus repentance
(surrender, submission, commitment)
being used as the invitation to receive Christ?

B - again..by whom? I would think it up to Christ...then again I believe
we all have Christ within so the very idea that Christ is "outside of
ourselves" to be received..is a bit odd a concept for me. Jesus is a
Christ...as in his whole self is guided by his Christ self..but his is an
example for all of us to live by our inner Christ.

Post by Frank
Why is the core of the gospel,
the imputation of the righteousness of Christ,
hardly heard today?

B - I hear it.

Post by Frank
Why do some profess to believe
that Christ is our righteousness for salvation
and then give the invitation to receive Christ
in such a way that people think
that their salvation depends on their repentance?

B - because everyone has their own interp of Christ and salvation?

Post by Frank
Why do people today generally see no difference
between repenting because God said to repent
and their trusting in repenting to get to heaven?

B - because they are both being used like a magic "trick" to be able to
get into heaven instead of something that you must feel deep within. God
knows your sincereity. Besides all of that no one has to repent to get
into heaven...they just have to realize that we are all one and that God
loves them and they are worthy of another try....I guess that falls into
the sincereity of their feelings.

Post by Frank
Why do those inviting others to receive Christ
not plainly tell people that they must not
trust in anything else other than Christ for salvation?

B - because people have a right to come to Christ in their own way..at
their own time when they are ready to receive. You cannot teach a child to
walk by holding them always...they need to fall in order to learn to walk.
What do you mean by SALVATION? you keep talking about it...what are they
being saved from? There is only Christ and that is an aspect of God..there
is nothing else.

Post by Frank
Why do people today not know
that salvation by faith plus repentance
was what Luther believed BEFORE
the Lord showed him
that salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone?

B - How do you know? where you there?

Post by Frank
The answer to all seven: Pray ye therefore
the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth
labourers into his harvest. (Matthew 9:38 KJV)

B - well yes..prayer is always good. God gives to those that seek in
sincereity.

I.M.O
Blessings,
Bren

[Antares 531]

Post by Frank
Why is salvation by faith alone
being called the same today
as salvation by faith plus repentance?

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Post by Frank
Why do people today generally see no difference
between repenting because God said to repent
and their trusting in repenting to get to heaven?

Counter question; How could anyone profess to accept Christ for
salvation yet not be willing to repent and turn away from sin, then
continue on, unabated, in full scale sin and rebellion? Gordon

[l***@hotmail.com]

Post by Antares 531

Post by Frank
Why is salvation by faith alone
being called the same today
as salvation by faith plus repentance?

...

Post by Frank
Why do people today generally see no difference
between repenting because God said to repent
and their trusting in repenting to get to heaven?

Counter question; How could anyone profess to accept Christ for
salvation yet not be willing to repent and turn away from sin, then
continue on, unabated, in full scale sin and rebellion? =A0Gordon

Sometimes it becomes a real question as to whether or not
someone has actually been "born again." The stoney ground
where the seed sprang up and the plant put forth a few leaves
only to just a quickly wilt and die. Perhaps the only one truly
saved in this parable was the one who had tares thrown in
along side: saved but still having significant battles with that
old sin nature.

I was talking about this just yesterday with a retired theology
teach from a major seminary. Why is it, it seems, that some
Christians have a very strong ethical discipline while others
struggle with their sin all their lives? Perhaps Christ's question,
"Who is forgiven more" pertains here.

Though exegetically it is not the primary application, I do feel
that 2 Cor 13:5 is a question that each and every "professor"
of faith needs to serious consider.

[d***@aol.com]

Post by Frank
Why is salvation by faith alone
being called the same today
as salvation by faith plus repentance?
Why is salvation by faith alone being professed
but salvation by faith plus repentance
(surrender, submission, commitment)
being used as the invitation to receive Christ?

I suppose it all comes down to the fact that we cannot be exactly sure
what was meant by faith in the first century, not just belief
obviously, devils believe and tremble, and there are ambiguities, a
lot depends on how you read a passage and where you put the emphasis.
So we get a plethora of denominations saying this, that, and the other
and we have to reflect and pray about what is intended for us, we have
to work out our own salvation, to borrow a phrase. Personally I doubt
the God I deal with is overly concerned with such minutia, once you
know Him it is only natural to love Him, and that takes care of the
"first and greatest commandment."

If Christians get hung up on these details, and forget that we all
share the central fact of the Incarnation, Atonement and Ressurection;
if we spend so much time quibbiling with one another, how can we not
expect that non-believers will assume we don't know anything to be
true and constant. Shouldn't we be more concerned with the vast fields
that still wait to be harvested than with picking over the grain
already in the storehouse?

Daryl

[l***@hotmail.com]

Post by Frank
Why do those inviting others to receive Christ
not plainly tell people that they must not
trust in anything else other than Christ for salvation?

=A0
Let me amend this question:

Why aren't people made fully aware of the cost of
actually turning your life over to Christ? Why isn't
it explained how significantly different the Christian's
view and lifestyle will radically change if, 1) they
truly convert and 2) truly seek to live out biblical
Christianity?