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Save the empire- secular liberation now!
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DevCarter
2007-05-17 00:42:47 UTC
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Save the empire- secular liberation now!
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The USA has demonstrated that the surest way to loose an empire is to
base it on the 'primacy' of a superpower deluded by theist phantasms
of 'good' and 'evil'. A global empire where the 'good' ones are merely
'compliant' insiders and the 'evil' ones any group resisting imperial
hegemony and therefore by definition 'evil'- fails any reality check
from and evolutionist viewpoint.

Divine intervention does not protect an empire from the negative
survival value of the collective insanity of wishful thinking.

The lion that became deluded into thinking all 'grass eaters' were
'good' so long as they accepted their victim status and stopped all
resistance to being eaten is a good analogy. Lions would quickly go
extinct if all were deluded by phantasms of invincibility and
implemented acts of aggression convinced of "mission accomplished"
namely, the surrender of all the 'grass eaters'.

Lions would chase prey they had no chance of catching and quickly
succumb from injury and exhaustion from the chase by attacking
unsuitable game that could either defend itself or escape capture. The
lion, as superpower of the savannah, has no more transcended the
evolutionary law than the USA, as superpower of the world.

Individuals often put themselves in harms way by not rationally
considering the negative possibilities. The wealth of nations and
empires are equally vulnerable to irrational choices. Raw 'power' is a
factor in evolutionary struggles, but it is quickly countered by
superior tactics based on stealth and superior intelligence.

The culturally insane are those who discard a secularist worldview of
empire founded in evolutionary truth, for an alternative based on
biblical prophecy and religious dogmatism- a belief that 'god' is on
one's side, and will surely save us- 'the good guys' irrespective of
the choices we make individually or collectively.

A majority of individuals have a mind capable of rational choice,
since the majority often fail to use it, religious extremists fill the
vacuum, and oppress the majority with their prejudices and zeal for
implementing a theist inspired vision of righteousness. So long as
this group dominate the political scene, money politics is sure to
follow in its wake so that a national interest becomes subordinate to
plutocratic corporate interests wrapped up in theist ideology.

A hallmark of plutocracy is corruption by 'omission'- omission to
disclose the true facts and to tell the truth, and critically expose
fabrications as 'lies', and the fabricators as 'traitors'.

A hallmark of democracy would be an institutional capacity to
eliminate treason and protect a secular empire from the theist and
plutocratic opportunists who treat it as theirs to squander.

The USA as a plutocracy has lost any democratic capacity to deal with
the treason within. The Zionist neo-cons and plutocrats own both the
Democratic and Republican parties so no one is held accountable for
Iraq - a war that will eventually leave over a million dead. With a
kill rate of over 300 Muslims to every 1 crusader willing to serve the
plutocratic and Zionist cause, a true victory is not joining the
crusaders so that the kill rate may be increase to 1000 to 1, but
recognition of the fact that crusades are detrimental to the good
health and prosperity of a secular empire.

The real heroes are those who resist the unbridled opportunism of the
enemy within, who see beyond their 'war on terror' propaganda.

What the world needs is secular liberation to preserve the empire, not
more plutocratic and Zionist bloodbaths that will squander it away
through endless conflict.

Dev Carter.
b***@juno.com
2007-05-21 00:25:22 UTC
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Post by DevCarter
Save the empire- secular liberation now!
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The USA has demonstrated that the surest way to loose an empire is to
base it on the 'primacy' of a superpower deluded by theist phantasms
of 'good' and 'evil'. A global empire where the 'good' ones are merely
'compliant' insiders and the 'evil' ones any group resisting imperial
hegemony and therefore by definition 'evil'- fails any reality check
from and evolutionist viewpoint.
Evolutionist viewpoint? Actually, from an evolutionist viewpoint,
survival of the fittest dovetails quite nicely with imperial
hegemony.
Post by DevCarter
Divine intervention does not protect an empire from the negative
survival value of the collective insanity of wishful thinking.
God could quite easily save us from ourselves. In fact, that is pretty
much the main premise of the gospel.
Post by DevCarter
The lion that became deluded into thinking all 'grass eaters' were
'good' so long as they accepted their victim status and stopped all
resistance to being eaten is a good analogy. Lions would quickly go
extinct if all were deluded by phantasms of invincibility and
implemented acts of aggression convinced of "mission accomplished"
namely, the surrender of all the 'grass eaters'.
What is this false analogy supposed to prove?
Post by DevCarter
Lions would chase prey they had no chance of catching and quickly
succumb from injury and exhaustion from the chase by attacking
unsuitable game that could either defend itself or escape capture. The
lion, as superpower of the savannah, has no more transcended the
evolutionary law than the USA, as superpower of the world.
The USA is not currently acting like a lion. It is acting more like a
mouse, always trying to not kill civilians and be "nice" to the
terrorists.

If you want to see USA acting like a lion, get back to me after the
terrorists explode a nuclear bomb in an American city. Then you will
see Islam vanish from the face of the Earth in a single day, as the
USA nukes them from the pages of history forever.
Post by DevCarter
Individuals often put themselves in harms way by not rationally
considering the negative possibilities. The wealth of nations and
empires are equally vulnerable to irrational choices. Raw 'power' is a
factor in evolutionary struggles, but it is quickly countered by
superior tactics based on stealth and superior intelligence.
Stealth only works when nations subscribe to Christian-based notions
of "not killing civilians." Trust me, if the terrorists ever use a
nuclear bomb on America, Islam as a world-force ends that very day for
all remaining history.
Post by DevCarter
The culturally insane are those who discard a secularist worldview of
empire founded in evolutionary truth, for an alternative based on
biblical prophecy and religious dogmatism- a belief that 'god' is on
one's side, and will surely save us- 'the good guys' irrespective of
the choices we make individually or collectively.
God WILL save us. You are arguing from false premises. Your pseudo-
marxist analysis has long been discredited. We tried that whole
"atheist-communist thing" last century, remember?
Post by DevCarter
A majority of individuals have a mind capable of rational choice,
since the majority often fail to use it, religious extremists fill the
vacuum, and oppress the majority with their prejudices and zeal for
implementing a theist inspired vision of righteousness. So long as
this group dominate the political scene, money politics is sure to
follow in its wake so that a national interest becomes subordinate to
plutocratic corporate interests wrapped up in theist ideology.
Really? And which ideology do you prefer? A godless one?

Been there, done that. Result: Stalin.
Post by DevCarter
A hallmark of democracy would be an institutional capacity to
eliminate treason and protect a secular empire from the theist and
plutocratic opportunists who treat it as theirs to squander.
Theism is not allied with plutocracy.
Post by DevCarter
The USA as a plutocracy has lost any democratic capacity to deal with
the treason within. The Zionist neo-cons and plutocrats own both the
Democratic and Republican parties so no one is held accountable for
Iraq - a war that will eventually leave over a million dead.
Guess what? Al Queda is the reason people keep dying. Not the USA.
Post by DevCarter
kill rate of over 300 Muslims to every 1 crusader willing to serve the
plutocratic and Zionist cause, a true victory is not joining the
crusaders so that the kill rate may be increase to 1000 to 1, but
recognition of the fact that crusades are detrimental to the good
health and prosperity of a secular empire.
If my army is losing less than 1 percent that the enemy is losing, how
is that not winning again?
Post by DevCarter
What the world needs is secular liberation to preserve the empire, not
more plutocratic and Zionist bloodbaths that will squander it away
through endless conflict.
The empire is not worth saving regardless. Empire is an outdated
concept.

Self-determination for all indigenous cultures is a much better
paradigm.

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