If You Were at Adam & Eve's Position

[qquito]

Dear Everyone:

If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?

Why or why not?

Thank you.

--Roland

Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every
tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die.
......
Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make
one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also
unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

[B.G. Kent]

Post by qquito
If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?
Why or why not?
Thank you.
--Roland

B - If one was to take it literally as you seem to be doing....I'd hope
that I would'nt go against Gods wishes...but I don't see it as literal. I
see it as another version (Gnostic) about one jealous god
trying to keep humans enslaved and stupid. I'd hope in that context that
I'd know that that angry God is not the God of Love..and to trust the
wisdom of
the serpents..the dragons of old who teach us that we are ONE in God..not
separate from God.

Bren

[Steve Hayes]

Post by qquito
If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?

Quite possibly.

Post by qquito
Why or why not?

Because I sometimes respond to "special offers" in advertisements, so I'm not
confident that I would be able to resist that one.

[l***@hotmail.com]

Post by qquito
If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?
Why or why not?

Is there chance behind God? Is there anything excluded from His
eternal plan?
Did the "fall" catch Him unawares? If Christ was "slain before the
foundation of
the world," then evidently the "fall" itself was determined.
Therefore no matter
who you replace Adam or Eve with, they would fulfill the same purpose
that the
"fall" was meant to accomplish.

BTW, "fruit" not "fruits."
Also, it wasn't the action which precipitated the fall, it was the
self-determination
to incline to selfish orientation.

[b***@acenet.net.au]

Post by l***@hotmail.com

Post by qquito
If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?
Why or why not?

Is there chance behind God? Is there anything excluded from His
eternal plan?
Did the "fall" catch Him unawares? If Christ was "slain before the
foundation of
the world," then evidently the "fall" itself was determined.
Therefore no matter
who you replace Adam or Eve with, they would fulfill the same purpose
that the
"fall" was meant to accomplish.
BTW, "fruit" not "fruits."
Also, it wasn't the action which precipitated the fall, it was the
self-determination
to incline to selfish orientation.

I'd have eaten the "forbidden fruit". For a couple of reasons - the
first would be that curiosity would get the better of me. Don't
forget anyone in the original parents' position would necessarily be
naive, not knowing what evil is, and would have no way of knowing the
outcome of their action. The second would have been that I'd have
wanted to know what this knowledge was that was supposed to be so
powerful.

In the case of the original parents, I don't think it was pride at the
time - Eve's justification was that she thought it would be "good" to
know what God knew. The tempter would not have appeared sinister to
her either, since neither she nor Adam would have had any concept of
evil. The pride came later, and when it is all said and done, pride
is usually something that involves comparison with other people - not
God. A politician may feel quite proud of his high station in society
- if he takes five minutes to compare his minute estate in the
universe, and that one day his dead, blanched body will be six feet
under, and then reflects God is bigger than the universe, and eternal
to boott, he would or should feel his pride is somewhat ludicrous.

In the case of Adam and Eve, at the time there were no other people,
and so pride would have been non-existent.

[Matthew Johnson]

In article <CPFaj.37003$***@trnddc04>, ***@acenet.net.au says...
[snip]

Post by b***@acenet.net.au
I'd have eaten the "forbidden fruit". For a couple of reasons - the
first would be that curiosity would get the better of me. Don't
forget anyone in the original parents' position would necessarily be
naive, not knowing what evil is, and would have no way of knowing the
outcome of their action.

This would be true if, like modern Man, Adam could directly observe only the
accidences of things, reaching teh essences only by philosophical reasoning. But
such a supposition misses the point: the account of Adam and Eve _cannot_ be
corrctly understood and interpreted unless you admit that Adam could directly
contemplate the essences of things. So no, he could not have been 'naive', nor
is it likely that he could have failed to know what evil is.

[snip]

[Dave]

Post by qquito
If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?

I think it would be presumptuous to think that I could be "better"
than Adam and Eve.

Dave

[Gordon]

Post by qquito
If you and your spouse were at Adam and Eve's position as described in
Genesis, would you eat the fruits from "the tree of knowledge of good
and evil"?
Why or why not?
Thank you.
--Roland
Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou
shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou
shalt surely die.
......
Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make
one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also
unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Roland, my take on this is that passages such as this are not to
be interpreted in a simple literal sense, but were given to us as
a metaphoric outline of a broad scope of understanding.

Given to us in this format makes the core information equally
understandable to all people of all ages and education levels. No
one has an advantage because of their superior intelligence or
education level.

"Eat" means take into one's self. We, and, yes, we are all
Adam/Eve class beings, should not attempt to take into ourselves
the in-depth understanding of good and evil, but instead, should
be content to follow God's guidance and not try to understand the
whys and wherefores of the whole complex situation. It's far too
complex for our limited human level of intelligence to ever
understand.

When God "created" he did not leave anything out or cut any
corners. His creation was total, complete and perfect. This being
the case, His creation had to include evil, otherwise it would
have been a compromised creation and therefore less than perfect.

Post by qquito
From our time perspective, God is now in the process of

separating good from evil, and we Adam/Eve class beings are fully
immersed in this process. We don't,/can't understand it in depth,
and we should not push for a deeper level of understanding than
God has given us.

If we turn our minds to the quest of deeper understanding of good
and evil, we will fall into a trap that turns us away from God.
and the final chapter here is spiritual death.

In other words, we should just be patient, trust in the Lord with
all our hearts and lean not on our own understanding.

Gordon