FALSE APOSTLE PAUL PART 2

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The word "aman" Strongs H0539, Has several different translations. Two
of the main translations used are, " to be faithful" the other is " to
believe." Gen 15:6 And he ( Abraham ) " believed or was faithful " in
the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Paul used this
verse to show that all you had to do is believe or have faith, to be
righteous. James 2:19 the devils also believe and have faith, Faith
and believing are very similar. The partition that makes you different
from devils is, not just believing, but being faithful. Abraham was
faithful to God, and he counted it to him for righteousness. Rom 4:2
For if Abraham were justified by works, A false statement by Paul.
ABRAHAM WAS JUSTIFIED BY WORKS. Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed
my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my
laws. Abraham was counted righteous because of his faithfulness and
works. It is called tunnel vision when you try to create a doctrine
out of one verse, by eliminating related verses, then false doctrine
occurs.

By Paul's use of the word "Believe" man is justified by faith only. If
fact any person that commits any sin is justified, just because he
believes. That is, according to Paul's doctrine. Rom 3:28 Therefore we
conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the
law. A man breaks into your house and rapes and kills your wife, your
daughter, or mother, then steals your money. According to Paul, if
this person is a believer, he is justified, because he is not under
the law. It is the law that makes these evil acts a sin. However, if
the word "Faithful" was used. This person could be called, unfaithful
to God. Which places him in the same category as devils. A person can
be a believer and still be unfaithful. Can the person harmed or
killed, expect justice from God under Paul's doctrine? NO! Not if the
person is justified in his evil acts, just because he believes. It was
not, The Living God, that inspired a translator to use the word
"believe" instead of "faithful". Gen 15:6 And he was faithful in the
LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. It is the
uncontrollable desire of unjust men, that tries to find a way to be
justified in their unfaithfulness. God's ways are righteous. Mans ways
are unrighteous. If you do things Gods way, and are faithful to the
ways of God, it will be counted to you for righteousness. Your evil
actions are NOT counted righteous, just because you believe. You must
believe to be saved, but just believing does not make you righteous,
and does not make you faithful.

Anyone that kills IS NOT justified, just because they believe. Those
that "do not" kill are called faithful, because they obeyed the voice
of God. Those that kill are called unfaithful, because they did not
obey the voice of God. The voice of God said, Thou shalt not kill.
"the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience." "the spirit that
now worketh in the children of disobedience:" "For which things' sake
the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:" Three times
Paul call the unfaithful, "children of disobedience". If the law is
gone, because you are not under it, it would be impossible to disobey
the law, nor can you be called a child of disobedience. This is more
of Paul's two faced doctrine. For those that truly believe, and are
faithful to God, every word that comes from God, is law. Luke 21:8 And
he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my
name, ( like Paul ) saying, Jesus is the Christ; and shall deceive
many.

Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, ... ye also shall sit upon twelve
thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. How can anyone judge
people when there is no law. How can anyone judge unless there is a
law to judge with. Every country has laws and while you are in that
country you will obey that law or be brought before a judge. The same
in God's kingdom, obey his law or be punished or expelled. The leaders
of the twelve houses shall judge by the law of God. Yet you say, you
are not compelled by, or under that law. For the law shall come from
Zion, and those that have no part in Zion, will not have a place in
the kingdom that Jesus that set up. Those that follow Paul in his
corrupt doctrine and ignore God, will have no place on the Mountain.

Only by the just application of the law can you know you did the right
thing. We are saved by grace through faith. First a man must have
faith that Jesus does exist, and has offered salvation. The law of
Jesus states. John 6:37 him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast
out. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath
sent me draw him: Therefore the law of Jesus states, he will not
refuse anyone, if they are drawn by the Father. God will not grant the
grace of salvation to anyone that will not humble themselves before
him. A man must admit that he is a sinner, and convince God that he
speaks from the heart, to receive forgiveness. A sin is a violation of
the law. Salvation is forgiveness. Therefore, by the law, a man is
saved by grace. Without the law no man could be saved, because without
the law, there could be no sin. Where there is no sin, there can be no
forgiveness. After a person is saved, they can look back at the law,
to see if they fulfilled the law. If there is no law, there can be no
faithful followers.

Gal 2:21. for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in
vain. Righteousness is doing things right the way God said to do them
right. Righteousness is not keeping the law, but the just application
of the law which includes mercy. Jesus said I came to fulfill the law.
Many times there are extenuating circumstances. To be faithful to God
is to maintain the righteous application of his law. Jesus was
faithful to God, in that he showed honor and obedience to the law. For
Jesus to be disobedient to the law, he could not have fulfilled the
law. If Jesus did not fulfill the law, he was not the chosen one. If
Jesus had not the works according to the law, his faith would be made
void. James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and
not by faith only. Therefore, righteous works by the law supports
faith. Rom 2:13 but the doers of the law shall be justified. The law
supports Jesus and condemns Paul's false doctrine of believe only.
Prov 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will
udder lies. Paul admitted to being a liar. Rom. 3:7.

The carnal law of the flesh states. Lev 19:27 Ye shall not round the
corners of your heads, The spiritual application of this law means.
Thou shalt not compass about the mouths of your leaders. Basically
saying. It is a sin to tell a leader what he can or can not say. Nor
cast off the mouths or words of the elders. Paul could not comprehend
the spiritual application of the law. There is the carnal application
of this law and a spiritual application of this law. You can learn the
spiritual by examining the carnal. Why should God be concerned with
the way you cut your hair? God looks to the inner man to see what you
look like. Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to
come, and not the very image of the things,

Isa 5:24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame
consumeth the chaff, so their root ( in Paul ) shall be as rottenness,
and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the
law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of
Israel. Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants
thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the
ordinance, broken the EVERLASTING covenant. These two prophecies are
about the Christian church. These are the people that have
transgressed and cast away the law of the lord by saying we are not
compelled by the law, and have broken the covenant. You hide your
crimes in WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW. This is accomplished by your
desire to bring God into conformity to what you want to believe. In
your self righteous manor and arrogance you just pick and chose what
you want to follow. You just ignore anything that you don't like. God
did not promise to give you what you want, but he did promise to give
you what you deserve.

Rev 1:5 Jesus, who is the FAITHFUL witness. Abraham was also FAITHFUL.
Moses was also FAITHFUL. Rev 17:14 King of kings: and they that are
with him are called, and chosen, and FAITHFUL. Luke 16:10 He that is
FAITHFUL in that which is least is FAITHFUL also in much: Sinners are
unfaithful. A transgression of the law is sin. Sin does not make you a
non believer, but it does make you unfaithful. A law can be called an
ordinance, a statute or precept. But a commandment is a direct
command. Many teach they are under a new covenant. There are no laws
or terms mentioned with that new covenant. Man just picks and chooses
which laws he desires to call covenant laws. Therefore the old
everlasting covenant is still intact or you have an empty covenant.
The Sabbath was given as a token of the covenant. The only change in
the old everlasting covenant is the place where it is written. If you
desire to remove the word everlasting from the covenant, then you must
also remove everlasting from life.

Thou shalt not take the name of the lord in vain. Whether Jesus
repeated it or not. If you commit this sin, you are unfaithful. If you
break a covenant commandment, you are a covenant breaker. Therefore
the covenant is void to you, and you can not be covered by the
covenant, until you make reparations. Amos 9:10 All the sinners of MY
PEOPLE shall die by the sword, Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come
unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my
mouth. Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with
all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. Many believers
will be passed over for ruling in the kingdom. These position's are
held exclusively for the faithful. Salvation is offered to believers
but only the faithful will have access to the Mountain.


THE FIRST WITNESS

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Post by unknown
By Paul's use of the word "Believe" man is justified by faith only. If
fact any person that commits any sin is justified, just because he
believes.

You have noted that there is more than one way to understand the word.
But you have chosen to understand it as stated above.

Post by unknown
"For which things' sake
the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:" Three times
Paul call the unfaithful, "children of disobedience". If the law is
gone, because you are not under it, it would be impossible to disobey
the law, nor can you be called a child of disobedience. This is more
of Paul's two faced doctrine.

Paul clearly did not mean it the way you insist he does. That can be
seen by other statements of his such as you have noted here.
Yet rather than reconcile, you have chosen to understand him in a
narrow, incomprehensible way, and then based on that narrow
understanding, turn around and declare that he is two faced.

Let me use an example:
Lets say you tell me you live in paris.
Let's say there are 2 separate places called paris: one in Texas, and
another in France.
I insist you mean paris, FRANCE, even though one has to admit that it
could be paris texas as well.

Now when you tell me that paris is within 150 miles of Dallas, I
respond that you are a filthy liar, and you are two faced by saying
that you live in paris, france AND are within 150 miles of Dallas.
Paris [france] is nowhere near dallas.

The problem isn't, of course, with the what you originally said, it
was with how I understood it.

You ought to be able to reconcile Paul, you yourself have acknowledged
the tools to do it, yet you've chosen to insist that his statements
are contradictory. That makes me think there must be a hidden
agenda.....

Post by unknown
It is called tunnel vision when you try to create a doctrine
out of one verse, by eliminating related verses, then false doctrine
occurs.

Hmmmmmmmm..........

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Post by r***@yahoo.com

Post by unknown
By Paul's use of the word "Believe" man is justified by faith only. If
fact any person that commits any sin is justified, just because he
believes.

You have noted that there is more than one way to understand the word.
But you have chosen to understand it as stated above.

As I tried to make clear. Paul's doctrine was faith only. Rom 4:3
Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Then Paul said. Rom 4:9 for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham
for righteousness. Which came first righteousness or faith. Paul
couldn't seem to make up his mind. Righteousness is doing thing right
the way God said to do them right. Therefore if you do things the way
God said to do them and you are faithful in those ways, it will be
counted to you for righteous. Man has his ways and God has his ways.
You can believe God all day long and not have righteousness. But if
you are faithful to Gods ways you can be counted righteous. To believe
only, doesn't cut it with God, this places you in the catagory of
devils, you must be faithful.

Post by r***@yahoo.com

Post by unknown
"For which things' sake
the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:" Three times
Paul call the unfaithful, "children of disobedience". If the law is
gone, because you are not under it, it would be impossible to disobey
the law, nor can you be called a child of disobedience. This is more
of Paul's two faced doctrine.

Paul clearly did not mean it the way you insist he does. That can be
seen by other statements of his such as you have noted here.
Yet rather than reconcile, you have chosen to understand him in a
narrow, incomprehensible way, and then based on that narrow
understanding, turn around and declare that he is two faced.

Pauls doctrine was you are not under the law. You can ignore the law,
because the law has no power over you. It is impossible to break a law
that has no power over you. You can not be disobedient to a law that
has no power over you. Therefore I said, Paul was two faced. And
previously I said, which was imputed first, faith for righteousness or
righteousness for faith. Another two faced twisted doctrine. Also Paul
called Jesus the passover and the atonement or propitiation for sin. 1
Cor 5:7. Rom 3:25 another two faced doctrine. Jesus can't be both.
These sacrifices are about six months apart. A wise person's first
thought would be, somebody is lying. Then they must go to the law of
that sacrifice and see which one was fulfilled. Because Jesus said, I
came to fulfill the law. Paul admitted to being a liar. Rom 3:7 It
takes a really sick mind to think the God of truth can be glorifyd by
a lie. Paul admitted to being a deciever. Rom 11:23. Paul said he was
aborted. 1 Cor 15:8. One aborted can not enter in the first kingdom.
The word born translates, aborted or miscarried.

Post by r***@yahoo.com
Lets say you tell me you live in paris.
Let's say there are 2 separate places called paris: one in Texas, and
another in France.
I insist you mean paris, FRANCE, even though one has to admit that it
could be paris texas as well.
Now when you tell me that paris is within 150 miles of Dallas, I
respond that you are a filthy liar, and you are two faced by saying
that you live in paris, france AND are within 150 miles of Dallas.
Paris [france] is nowhere near dallas.
The problem isn't, of course, with the what you originally said, it
was with how I understood it.

This is a really bad analogy. It doesn't fit what I said. Either that
or I'm not getting it. I understand the analogy and I understand what
I said. I can't seem to bring them together.

Faith vs. faithful. Here is a scenario. Two men, called man 1 and man
2 are both believers. These two men were approached by a very
desirable woman These two men being married, were ask to commit
adultery. Man 1 said yes and man 2 declined. The law states, thou
shall not commit adultery. Man 1 is condemned by his action. Man 2 is
justified by his non action. Therefore man 1 is not justified by faith
because of action without the law. Man 2 is justified by the law
because of his non action.

Different scenario. Man 1 see's another man in trouble. He has the
where with to help, but he doesn't do it. Man 2 comes along and see's
the same man and he stop's to help. Therefore man 1 is condemned for
his non action, and man 2 is honored for his action. Man 2 is
justified because of the law. Love thy neighbor as thy self. Man 1 has
faith without the law. Man 2 is faithful to the law. It is almost
impossible to not have works either by action or non action. But the
work's without the law are condemned, and the work's according to the
law, are righteous. Man 1 has faith but is not faithful to the law.
Man 2 has faith and is faithful to the law.

In these two scenario's where action and non action are counted as
works. These are deed's these men followed. Man 1 claims to be
justified because he has faith. Man 2 is justified by his deeds
according to the law. Man 1 is condemned in the first scenario because
of, Thou shalt not commit adultery. Man 1 is also condemned in the
second scenario because of his lack of action and the law, Love thy
neighbor as thyself. Therefore man 2 is justified by his deed's and
non deed's according to the law in both scenario's.

Thou shalt not commit adultery is a direct command from God. It is a
covenant commandment. Love thy neighbor as thy self is not a covenant
commandment. But Jesus called it a direct command. James call it a
Royal commandment. James 2:8 Therefore observed by those of the Royal
Household of God. James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good,
and doeth it not, to him it is sin. Luke 10:30-36. Jesus and who is my
neighbor. And James with love thy neighbor. Against Paul with his Rom.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without
the deeds of the law. Therefore I concluded that Paul had no knowledge
of what he was talking about. I don't accept this verse as the word of
God. There is no such thing as, the law of sin, that Paul uses. Sin is
a transgression of the law. There is no law governing sin. Sin is
governed by the law. Just like life and death is governed by the law.

These are only two scenario's. I could probably fill a book full of
them on the same order. Where man is justified by his works according
to the law. The law must be applied justly with equity and mercy, to
be righteous. The righteous application of the law is what makes the
law righteous. James said, faith without works is dead. I can add to
this verse to clarify this. Faith without righteous works is dead.
Because there are righteous works and there are evil works. How can
anyone do a righteous work according to law, without the law? The law
is the way of God.

Man can not have compassion for a neighbor unless he has love thy
neighbor written in his heart. Compassion is a desire of the soul
which is seated in the heart of man. Therefore a man's mind may tell
him one thing and his heart another thing. The mind said, Love thy
neighbor. But if you do not love thy neighbor from the heart, it is
not of righteousness. I will have mercy and not sacrifice. Love thy
neighbor from the mind is a sacrifice. Love thy neighbor from the
heart is of mercy, and acceptable to God. God does not want you to
make a sacrifice because you have to. He wants you to make a sacrifice
because you want to. It is not acceptable to just believe or have
faith in God. You must show your faith by your faithfulness in what
you believe. It is not good enough to just believe something because
someone said to believe it. You must study to know WHY you believe it.
The bible has been severely tampered with from the beginning. So when
finding contradiction's you must determine who is right or wrong.
There is doctrine and there is anti doctrine. Paul has used anti
doctrine in to many places for me to believe him.

Post by r***@yahoo.com
You ought to be able to reconcile Paul, you yourself have acknowledged
the tools to do it, yet you've chosen to insist that his statements
are contradictory. That makes me think there must be a hidden
agenda.....

Here is my agenda. Rev 2:2 and thou hast tried them which say they are
apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: There are many more
false things to point out shortly. There is no desire in me to follow
a false prophet. Let's just say, I went over his head. Who knows
better the doctrine of Jesus, than Jesus.

Post by r***@yahoo.com

Post by unknown
It is called tunnel vision when you try to create a doctrine
out of one verse, by eliminating related verses, then false doctrine
occurs.

Hmmmmmmmm..........

THE FIRST WITNESS