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Article: My Ex-Gay Life :: Choosing Heterosexuality
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ther
2007-09-04 01:21:21 UTC
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In light of recent discussions here on the NG, I thought this would be an
interesting article to discuss.

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My Ex-Gay Life :: Choosing Heterosexuality

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http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=features&sc3=&id=4945&pf=1

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http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=features&sc3=&id=4996&pf=1

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http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=features&sc3=&id=5033&pf=1

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http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=features&sc3=&id=5088&pf=1
Burkladies
2007-09-13 00:49:04 UTC
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Post by ther
In light of recent discussions here on the NG, I thought this would be an
interesting article to discuss.
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My Ex-Gay Life :: Choosing Heterosexuality
I do not care about the articles. I think the whole ex-gay thing is
bunk. I know folks who have found christ and an ex-heterosexual life
and are much healthier since. Perhaps you have been brainwashed in
thinking choosing heterosexuality is of substance. Unless you were
screwing everyone. That is a different matter, gay is not an issue.
Folks like to confuse that. Monogamy is not about gender. Christ did
not have issues with sexual preference or orientation, just adultery.
Christ spoke against adultery many times because this act was and is
usually the cause of much caos.

Blessings
A Brown
2007-09-14 02:55:50 UTC
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Post by Burkladies
Post by ther
My Ex-Gay Life :: Choosing Heterosexuality
I do not care about the articles.
Well you should read it, because it appears to say what you are saying....
Matthew Johnson
2007-09-14 02:55:50 UTC
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Post by Burkladies
Post by ther
In light of recent discussions here on the NG, I thought this would be an
interesting article to discuss.
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My Ex-Gay Life :: Choosing Heterosexuality
I do not care about the articles.
To put it bluntly, who cares what you care about?
Post by Burkladies
I think the whole ex-gay thing is
bunk.
Again: who _cares_ what you think? It is not bunk, despite what you think.
Post by Burkladies
I know folks who have found christ and an ex-heterosexual life
and are much healthier since.
No, you do not. What you know are 'folks' who _say_ they have found Christ, but
are living in complacency with their sinfulness. That is NOT "much healthier",
as they will find out on Judgment Day.
Post by Burkladies
Perhaps you have been brainwashed in
thinking choosing heterosexuality is of substance.
Then again, perhaps it is you who is brainwashed.
Post by Burkladies
Unless you were
screwing everyone. That is a different matter, gay is not an issue.
Folks like to confuse that. Monogamy is not about gender.
Sure it is. After all, "monogamy" derives from the Greek roots 'mono' meaning
'one' or 'only', and 'gamh' meaning 'marriage'. And as has been explained so
often elsewhere, 'marriage' is between a man and a woman. So 'monogamy' means
one marriage only.
Post by Burkladies
Christ did
not have issues with sexual preference or orientation, just adultery.
So _you_ say. But why should we believe you? We should not. If we believe what
_Christ_ says, then we believe His Chosen Vessel Paul also. And Paul was MUCH
more clear in condemning homosexuality as sexual immorality.
Post by Burkladies
Christ spoke against adultery many times because this act was and is
usually the cause of much caos.
You can't even get this right. He spoke against it because it is so sinful, NOT
because it is "usually the cause of much caos[sic]".
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2007-09-14 02:55:54 UTC
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Post by Burkladies
Post by ther
In light of recent discussions here on the NG, I thought this would be an
interesting article to discuss.
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My Ex-Gay Life :: Choosing Heterosexuality
I do not care about the articles. I think the whole ex-gay thing is
bunk. I know folks who have found christ and an ex-heterosexual life
and are much healthier since. Perhaps you have been brainwashed in
thinking choosing heterosexuality is of substance. Unless you were
screwing everyone. That is a different matter, gay is not an issue.
Folks like to confuse that. Monogamy is not about gender. Christ did
not have issues with sexual preference or orientation, just adultery.
Christ spoke against adultery many times because this act was and is
usually the cause of much caos.
Blessings
1Co 6:9 You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God,
don't you?

Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers,
male prostitutes, homosexuals,

1Co 6:10 thieves, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, and robbers will not
inherit the kingdom of God.



tex.
Anonymouse
2007-09-17 01:58:31 UTC
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Matthew, does this post bring anything to the discussion beyond adding
insults?
Post by Matthew Johnson
To put it bluntly, who cares what you care about?
Again: who _cares_ what you think? It is not bunk, despite what you think.
Then again, perhaps it is you who is brainwashed.
So _you_ say. But why should we believe you? We should not.
Burkladies
2007-09-17 01:58:32 UTC
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So you folks have sexual problems. Ah! So you immediately want to
drag everyone else into you sexual pit of nastiness. Since non of you
agrees with the guy who wrote the article, simply shut up. Neither of
you is christian. Christ had the worst problem with Adultery. And
you guys keep doing that uhuh. Adultery is a bunch of nastiness for
which there is no redemption. I see why you get upset. And quoting
St. Paul out of context does not help.
Matthew Johnson
2007-09-18 04:25:43 UTC
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Post by Anonymouse
Matthew, does this post bring anything to the discussion beyond adding
insults?
Yes, it brings a lot. Perhaps you would see it yourself if you weren't already
so strongly biased by your own fall.

Don't think you can fool me, 'Anonymouse'. The real reason you react with the
_false_ accusation of "bringing insults" is because you too want to be believed
when we should not believe you. And we should not believe you either, for the
same reason; you are teaching something _very_ antithetical to Christianity, but
dressing it up to look Christian -- a disguise that is the worst of all frauds.

[snip]
And yes, it is a false accusation, because it is not an insult to remind my
interlocutor that my interlocutor has done _nothing_ to gain credibility, not
even offer a single logically coherent argument.
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A Brown
2007-09-20 00:27:21 UTC
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Post by Matthew Johnson
Post by Anonymouse
Matthew, does this post bring anything to the discussion beyond adding
insults?
Yes, it brings a lot. Perhaps you would see it yourself if you weren't
already
so strongly biased by your own fall.
Yes, Matthew you are quite gifted in insults.

But throwing slams does nothing to support your position.
Rob
2007-09-21 02:37:47 UTC
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Post by A Brown
Post by Matthew Johnson
Post by Anonymouse
Matthew, does this post bring anything to the discussion beyond adding
insults?
Yes, it brings a lot. Perhaps you would see it yourself if you weren't
already
so strongly biased by your own fall.
Yes, Matthew you are quite gifted in insults.
But throwing slams does nothing to support your position.
that seems to be the way Matt does it in a discussion when he can't argue
rationally.
Matthew Johnson
2007-09-25 02:23:57 UTC
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Post by Burkladies
So you folks have sexual problems.
That doesn't follow from what we/they said. It follows only from your nasty
habit of accusing those who differ with you of having 'problems'.
Post by Burkladies
Ah! So you immediately want to
drag everyone else into you sexual pit of nastiness.
That doesn't follow either. It is just another of your many non sequiturs, the
second biggest in this post...
Post by Burkladies
Since non of you
agrees with the guy who wrote the article, simply shut up.
But this is the biggest;) It certainly does _not_ follow from disagreeing with
him that we should "shut up". Not by a long shot.
Post by Burkladies
Neither of
you is christian.
You have no authority to make that judgment, much less that statement.
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
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A Brown
2007-09-26 02:47:20 UTC
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Post by Matthew Johnson
That doesn't follow from what we/they said. It follows only from your
nasty
habit of accusing those who differ with you of having 'problems'.
Post by Burkladies
Ah! So you immediately want to
drag everyone else into you sexual pit of nastiness.
Isn't that the way it works with you Matt?

There's an old aphorism that goes, "If you have the facts on your side,
pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you
have neither on your side, pound the table."

In your case it's not pound the table , but pound the person when you can't
debate anything else.
Matthew Johnson
2007-09-27 02:08:24 UTC
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Post by A Brown
Post by Matthew Johnson
That doesn't follow from what we/they said. It follows only from your
nasty
habit of accusing those who differ with you of having 'problems'.
Post by Burkladies
Ah! So you immediately want to
drag everyone else into you sexual pit of nastiness.
Isn't that the way it works with you Matt?
No.
Post by A Brown
There's an old aphorism that goes, "If you have the facts on your side,
pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you
have neither on your side, pound the table."
That is a useless aporism.
Post by A Brown
In your case it's not pound the table , but pound the person when you can't
debate anything else.
But wait a minute: it is you who is "pounding the person", not me.
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
A Brown
2007-09-28 02:38:54 UTC
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Post by Matthew Johnson
Post by A Brown
Post by Matthew Johnson
That doesn't follow from what we/they said. It follows only from your
nasty
habit of accusing those who differ with you of having 'problems'.
Post by Burkladies
Ah! So you immediately want to
drag everyone else into you sexual pit of nastiness.
Isn't that the way it works with you Matt?
No.
Seems to be.
Post by Matthew Johnson
Post by A Brown
There's an old aphorism that goes, "If you have the facts on your side,
pound the facts. If you have the law on your side, pound the law. If you
have neither on your side, pound the table."
That is a useless aporism.
It is for those who have eyes but cannot see...and those with ears who will
not listen.
shegeek72
2007-09-28 02:38:54 UTC
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On Sep 26, 7:08 pm, the suspect Matthew Johnson
Post by Matthew Johnson
But wait a minute: it is you who is "pounding the person", not me.
Those who live in glass houses....
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Burkladies
2007-09-21 02:37:46 UTC
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Post by ther
In light of recent discussions here on the NG, I thought this would be an
interesting article to discuss.
So, Ther, what positive changes have you made in your life?

Blessings
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