kids

[Burkladies]

Can anyone name reasons to have kids?
All I can think of is the financial burden they come with. And
housing is so hard to get these days, some families end up homeless.
So why have kids to drag through that?

[B.G. Kent]

Post by Burkladies
Can anyone name reasons to have kids?
All I can think of is the financial burden they come with. And
housing is so hard to get these days, some families end up homeless.
So why have kids to drag through that?

B - I would say to have that particular experience of love in this
particular life. I got a tubal ligation when I turned 41 and am so happy
about it. I have no interest in having my own children...but I am an
awesome auntie and great auntie.

I believe that we have choices in this life. I choose a child-free life.

Bren

[b***@juno.com]

Post by Burkladies
Can anyone name reasons to have kids?
All I can think of is the financial burden they come with. And
housing is so hard to get these days, some families end up homeless.
So why have kids to drag through that?

If you don't want to raise your own kids, you are going to miss about
half of what makes life fun, challenging, and interesting.

And you will be always self-centered if you never have any kids.

I heard the other day about a Christian woman who has 5 foster kids.
Talk about meeting a desperate need, by pure unselfishness!

Think about it. If you never have kids, including foster kids or
adopted kids, you are going to live your entire life with your "self"
at front and center.

Is that really what life is all about? Self-gratification? Looking out
for number 1?

[Burkladies]

Post by b***@juno.com
Is that really what life is all about? Self-gratification? Looking out
for number 1?

Thanks for responding. It seems having kids or not having them
becomes a dance between experiencing life with our ego and with less
ego. I sponsered a girl in Venezuela for $12 a month, but that was
not as challenging as fostering, adopting or giving birth.
There are always horror stories with adopting a child with or without
conditions attatched. The parents to-be get burned and the kid stays
in a broken system. My ex mother in law fostered several,
unfortunetly her kids say she could not do right by her own in the
meantime. I have cousins in foster care, their mother is a retch and
the father is now remarried. :>
I am finally in a situation to have one so I'm considering having a
child and handling my business in preparation. I know there is no for
sure in having kids and I prefer a plan for handling things. So I
look past my issues and folks have kids in what I consider
unaccaptable circumstances; religion says, casual sex, folks are
dysfuncional and homelessness happens. We are stuck with a war, under
a president I did not vote for, the economy is not 'child friendly',
nor adult friendly for that matter. Proper education is hard to get
and most folks out there strike me as crazy, including but not limited
to all the presidential candidates. >

Post by b***@juno.com
Is that really what life is all about? Self-gratification? Looking out
for number 1?

Thanks for responding. It seems having kids or not having them
becomes a dance between experiencing life with our ego and with less
ego. I sponsered a girl in Venezuela for $12 a month, but that was
not as challenging as fostering, adopting or giving birth.
There are always horror stories with adopting a child with or without
conditions attatched. The parents to-be get burned and the kid stays
in a broken system. My ex mother in law fostered several,
unfortunetly her kids say she could not do right by her own in the
meantime. I have cousins in foster care, their mother is a retch and
the father is now remarried. :>
I am finally in a situation to have one so I'm considering having a
child and handling my business in preparation. I know there is no for
sure in having kids and I prefer a plan for handling things. So I
look past my issues and folks have kids in what I consider
unaccaptable circumstances; religion says, casual sex, folks are
dysfuncional and homelessness happens. We are stuck with a war, under
a president I did not vote for, the economy is not 'child friendly',
nor adult friendly for that matter. Proper education is hard to get
and most folks out there strike me as crazy, including but not limited
to all the presidential candidates. Our country has been overrun with
illegal's who are demanding amnisty while taking up our resources and
hospitality with their kids.
I end up asking myself how does a parent raise a child in these
conditions? Same as folks have done for 1000's of years. So until
Christ tells me to do otherwise, I keep my diet good and finances in
order so I can continue my genetic code with pride.

blessings

[shegeek72]

Post by b***@juno.com
And you will be always self-centered if you never have any kids.

Baloney. Choosing not to have children doesn't automatically make one
self-centered and having children doesn't mean one isn't self-
centered. There are lots of self-centered, lousy parents out there.

I never had children (obviously, because I can't conceive, but I also
didn't want to adopt) and help others in various ways from my church,
where I'm a communion server and on the finance committee, to my
website to helping transgender people who need advice. Indeed, not
having kids frees my time to help others. I'm not trying to toot my
own horn, but I've saved at least two people from suicide (they told
me).

I'm self-centered? Hardly.
--
Tara's Transgender Resources
http://tarasresources.net

Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.mccchurch.org

[B.G. Kent]

Post by b***@juno.com
If you don't want to raise your own kids, you are going to miss about
half of what makes life fun, challenging, and interesting.
And you will be always self-centered if you never have any kids.

B - LOL...tell that to all the people out there who want kids because they
want them yet have nothing to support them with except others money. I
think it can be just as self-less to not have children.

Bren

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by b***@juno.com

Post by Burkladies
Can anyone name reasons to have kids?
All I can think of is the financial burden they come with. And
housing is so hard to get these days, some families end up homeless.
So why have kids to drag through that?

If you don't want to raise your own kids, you are going to miss about
half of what makes life fun, challenging, and interesting.
And you will be always self-centered if you never have any kids.
I heard the other day about a Christian woman who has 5 foster kids.
Talk about meeting a desperate need, by pure unselfishness!
Think about it. If you never have kids, including foster kids or
adopted kids, you are going to live your entire life with your "self"
at front and center.

You go too far, Bimms. Much too far. Consider the example of Mother Teresa. She
never had kids, but do you believe _she_ "lived her entire life with her 'self'
at front and center"?

Of course she did not. Of course you went too far. And your error is plausible
only because you and your countrymen have no understanding of or sympathy for
the monastic life.

[snip]

[shegeek72]

Post by Matthew Johnson
You go too far, Bimms. Much too far. Consider the example of Mother Teresa. She
never had kids, but do you believe _she_ "lived her entire life with her 'self'
at front and center"?
Of course she did not. Of course you went too far. And your error is plausible
only because you and your countrymen have no understanding of or sympathy for
the monastic life.

Wow! MJ castigates bimms?! What's this ng coming to? ;)
--
Tara's Transgender Resources
http://tarasresources.net

Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.mccchurch.org

[B.G. Kent]

I always feel that people will always be wondering "what if". Those with
no children wonder "what if?" and those with children wonder "what if I
never had children?". I think the trick is to learn to be happy with
your choices...know that they are there for a reason and go onwards. I
know I had children in a past life..infact many...I don't need to have
human children in this one. This life I am focused on spirituality more
than anything else and that is fine with me. Granted I have siblings who
have had children so don't have the grandma or potential grandma saying
"when ya gonna give me grandchildren?" but then again...it is always up
to the individual to make these decisions.

I love my feather children and my fur children...I'm fine that way.

Good luck in your choice

Brenda


On Mon,
13 Aug 2007, Burkladies

Post by Burkladies

Post by b***@juno.com
Is that really what life is all about? Self-gratification? Looking out
for number 1?

Thanks for responding. It seems having kids or not having them
becomes a dance between experiencing life with our ego and with less
ego. I sponsered a girl in Venezuela for $12 a month, but that was

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by shegeek72

Post by Matthew Johnson
You go too far, Bimms. Much too far. Consider the example of Mother Teresa. She
never had kids, but do you believe _she_ "lived her entire life with her 'self'
at front and center"?
Of course she did not. Of course you went too far. And your error is plausible
only because you and your countrymen have no understanding of or sympathy for
the monastic life.

Wow! MJ castigates bimms?! What's this ng coming to? ;)

That question is best answered by responding in the language of those you are
driving the newsgroup to. Arf! Arf, arf, g-r-r-r-r-r!.

But seriously now: that was _hardly_ 'castigating'. Bimms has been in this NG
long enough not to over-react the way you did, calling it 'castigating'.

[shegeek72]

On Aug 14, 7:48 pm, the suspect Matthew Johnson

Post by Matthew Johnson
But seriously now: that was _hardly_ 'castigating'. Bimms has been in this NG
long enough not to over-react the way you did, calling it 'castigating'.

Where's your sense of humor?
--
Tara's Transgender Resources
http://tarasresources.net

Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.mccchurch.org

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by shegeek72
On Aug 14, 7:48 pm, the suspect Matthew Johnson

Post by Matthew Johnson
But seriously now: that was _hardly_ 'castigating'. Bimms has been in this NG
long enough not to over-react the way you did, calling it 'castigating'.

Where's your sense of humor?

You would know if you looked up the link I gave you on global population;)