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The great tribulation began nearly two thousands years ago
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Allan Svensson
2008-01-16 01:43:08 UTC
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The great tribulation began nearly two thousands years ago


They have preached that Jesus first will come invisibly for the
world and take God's people to heaven. After that the Antichrist
appears, and the great tribulation will begin and last for seven
years. Then Jesus shall come to judge the world. This is only a
theory and it does not agree with the Bible.

As it was in the days of Noah, so also it will be in the days of
the Son of Man. When Noah went into the ark, the flood came
and destroyed all. Likewise, as it was in the days of Lot. The
day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from
the heaven and destroyed all. According to those things, it will
be in the day the Son of Man is revealed. Luke 17:26-30.

Of this we can understand, at the same day Jesus comes to take
his people to heaven, then God's judgement comes at once above
the ungodly world. In Matt. 24:29-30 Jesus says clearly that he
shall come after the tribulation. That Jesus shall come before
the great tribulation and before the Antichrist appears, it is a
false doctrine. It does not agree with what the Bible teaches.

It cannot be more than one first resurrection, and it will take
place when Jesus comes. This resurrection which is described
in 1 Thess. 4:13-17 and in 1 Cor. 15:23, 51-53, it is the same
resurrection as in Rev. 20:4-6. There in verse 4, we can see that
those which have been under the Antichrist's regime, and who
had not worshipped the beast nor its image, and had not received
the mark of the beast on their forehead or on their hands, they
have part in the first resurrection. Then Jesus comes to take his
people to heaven.

The great tribulation will not last only for seven years. It began
nearly two thousands years ago. Satan and his churches have
persecuted, tortured and murdered many millions of Christians.
Can a tribulation become worse?

The churches have not been better, only changed the tactic.
When the devil did not succeed in exterminating the Christians
by mass murder, then he tries with seduction. With speaking
about "love" and "Christian unity" he entices them to apostasy
from the Lord. The ecumenicalism is a fishing tackle of the
Catholic Church to ensnare the Christians into the Catholicism.

All sorts of free church members become enticed to apostasy
from the Lord. They believe that their free churches are
assemblies of God, and they do as their leaders say. The church
is the greatest deceit in the history of the world, and the "love"
of the church are only religious fornication and seduction.

If we observe the context in Matt. 24:4-27, then we see that it
was during the great tribulation and before Jesus' arrival, that
these false Christs and false prophets would appear.



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Turin
2008-01-21 14:06:55 UTC
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So, here's a basic question:
Why such a long tribulation?

I'm not taking up for Dispensationalism. But, going by the biblical
6000 year age of the earth, 2,000 years of ongoing tribulation is a
huge chunk of history. It just seems that the period of tribulation
referred to by J.C. would be a little more microcosmic as a judgement
of the rest of human history.


Really. Why can't Jesus just come back and end all of the human
misery? Both, that experienced and spread by His followers. Even, if
we can't be questioning God, I think it's valid to start looking at
the evidence - such as the huge amount of time that's gone by - and to
wonder just when Jesus plans to come back, either, to start or to
finish the tribulation and usher in all of the other perfect Utopian
promises I - for one - have been listening to since I was a kid. It's
a joke.
Post by Allan Svensson
The great tribulation began nearly two thousands years ago
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Post by Allan Svensson
The great tribulation will not last only for seven years. It began
nearly two thousands years ago. Satan and his churches have
persecuted, tortured and murdered many millions of Christians.
Can a tribulation become worse?
The churches have not been better, only changed the tactic.
When the devil did not succeed in exterminating the Christians
by mass murder, then he tries with seduction. With speaking
about "love" and "Christian unity" he entices them to apostasy
from the Lord. The ecumenicalism is a fishing tackle of the
Catholic Church to ensnare the Christians into the Catholicism.
...


"And Turin stretched out his hand over the sea of bullshit; and the
LORD caused the bullshit to go back by a strong east wind all that
night, and made the bullshit dry land, and the bullshit was divided."


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He has the face of an angel,
The charm of the devil,


....and, the power of a god:


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