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Jesus [39] The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions (25)
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* irenic *
2006-08-31 03:10:20 UTC
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Jesus [39] The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions (25)

Continuing our summary/review of Tom Wright and Marcus Borg's discussion...
For other articles in this series visit
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/catalog/section/jc1.htm.

These brief excerpts are meant to provoke thought/reflection...

More from Marcus Borg (from his chapter on Jesus' birth-stories, including
the 'virgin birth'):

'To say "What happened in Jesus was of the Spirit" is not a factual claim
dependent upon a biological miracle, but a way of seeing Jesus [as] the
decisive disclosure of God... The important questions are "Is Jesus the
light of the world? Is he the true Lord? Is what happened to him 'of God'?"
Answering these questions affirmatively lays claim to our whole lives...
Meister Eckhart, a Christian mystic, theologian, and preacher from the
thirteenth century... spoke of the virgin birth as something that happens
*within us*... [It's] the story of Christ being born within us through the
union of the Spirit of God with our flesh. Ultimately, the story of Jesus'
birth is not just about the past but about the internal birth in us in the
present' (pp. 186).

[Note from Rowland: To be fair to Tom and Marcus I'm presenting their
summary-views before I offer some of my own... You'll have to *think* first,
and then wait for my appraisal].

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Shalom! Rowland Croucher

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would give my life for the simplicity on the other side of complexity
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Burkladies
2006-09-05 01:23:08 UTC
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Jesus was and is at least two visions and infinite.... For example.
12 And it came to pass in these days, that he went out into the
mountain to pray; and he continued all night in prayer to God.
13 And when it was day, he called his disciples; and he chose from
them twelve, whom also he named apostles:
Luke 6:12-13 (American Standard Version),
The Earthly Ministry of Jesus
When Jesus appeared on earth, he performed miracles and great wonders
for the salvation of humanity. And since some walked in the way of
righteousness while others walked in their transgressions, the twelve
disciples were called.
He began to speak with them about the mysteries beyond the world.....
Gospel of Judas (National Geographic Society)

16 And no man, when he hath lighted a lamp, covereth it with a vessel,
or putteth it under a bed; but putteth it on a stand, that they that
enter in may see the light.
17 For nothing is hid, that shall not be made manifest; nor anything
secret, that shall not be known and come to light.
Luke 8:16-17 (American Standard Version), Gospel of Thomas 33,34

Jesus clearly had several forms.
Blessed be, Lady
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Jesus [39] The Meaning of Jesus: Two Visions (25)
Continuing our summary/review of Tom Wright and Marcus Borg's discussion...
For other articles in this series visit
http://jmm.aaa.net.au/catalog/section/jc1.htm.
These brief excerpts are meant to provoke thought/reflection...
More from Marcus Borg (from his chapter on Jesus' birth-stories, including
'To say "What happened in Jesus was of the Spirit" is not a factual claim
dependent upon a biological miracle, but a way of seeing Jesus [as] the
decisive disclosure of God... The important questions are "Is Jesus the
light of the world? Is he the true Lord? Is what happened to him 'of God'?"
Answering these questions affirmatively lays claim to our whole lives...
Meister Eckhart, a Christian mystic, theologian, and preacher from the
thirteenth century... spoke of the virgin birth as something that happens
*within us*... [It's] the story of Christ being born within us through the
union of the Spirit of God with our flesh. Ultimately, the story of Jesus'
birth is not just about the past but about the internal birth in us in the
present' (pp. 186).
[Note from Rowland: To be fair to Tom and Marcus I'm presenting their
summary-views before I offer some of my own... You'll have to *think* first,
and then wait for my appraisal].
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