Heaven full of atheists ?

[Caesar J. B. Squitti]

Heaven full of atheists ?

Would it be correct for me to ask a simple question, that if the
Christians (and similar religious people of the world) of the world
reacted as George Bush to the events of 9-11, would not heaven contain
a majority of atheists ?

To quote from the words spoken to my grandmother, Concetta Bertucci,
a century ago by a priest in Simbario, "We will certainly burn in
hell, for we as priests(and as Christians and similar religious
people) should know better !"

Caesar J. B. Squitti

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[Dave]

Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Heaven full of atheists ?
Would it be correct for me to ask a simple question, that if the
Christians (and similar religious people of the world) of the world
reacted as George Bush to the events of 9-11, would not heaven contain
a majority of atheists ?
To quote from the words spoken to my grandmother, Concetta Bertucci,
a century ago by a priest in Simbario, "We will certainly burn in
hell, for we as priests(and as Christians and similar religious
people) should know better !"

You certainly have the right to ask the question. The answer is "No."
For our standing with God is not based on what we do, but on what we
believe.

Dave

[Caesar J. B. Squitti]

Post by Dave

Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Heaven full of atheists ?
Would it be correct for me to ask a simple question, that if the
Christians (and similar religious people of the world) of the world
reacted as George Bush to the events of 9-11, would not heaven contain
a majority of atheists ?
To quote from the words spoken to my grandmother, Concetta Bertucci,
a century ago by a priest in Simbario, "We will certainly burn in
hell, for we as priests(and as Christians and similar religious
people) should know better !"

You certainly have the right to ask the question. The answer is "No."
For our standing with God is not based on what we do, but on what we
believe.
Dave

I believe you are half-right Dave.

If you truly believe they you will do, but if you do not believe, even
though you say you do, then you won't.

The real proof is in the 'pudding'....if you believe than you do.
Believing without doing, is not real believing, now is it ?

Caesar J. B. Squitti

Truth can Lie.
http://www.thejesuschristcode.com

[**Rowland Croucher**]

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Post by Dave
For our standing with God is not based on what we do, but on what we
believe.

Not according to Jesus' parable in Matthew 25,,,

(The Devils *believe*...)

Post by Dave
Dave

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Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Heaven full of atheists ?

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Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
To quote from the words spoken to my grandmother, Concetta Bertucci,
a century ago by a priest in Simbario, "We will certainly burn in
hell, for we as priests(and as Christians and similar religious
people) should know better !"

You certainly have the right to ask the question. The answer is "No."
For our standing with God is not based on what we do, but on what we
believe.

Translation: I can do anything I want, even murder, as long as I believe
it is wrong. Conclusion: Nuts. Gee, and here I thought Christians were
supposed to hold the moral high ground.

George

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Post by **Rowland Croucher**
(The Devils *believe*...)

"The demons believe in God, and tremble." This passage from James
makes it appear that belief is not enough. And it seems to contradict
the letters of St. Paul, which emphasize faith alone as the source of
eternal salvation.

I reconcile this with Paul, by saying that "faith alone" saves us for
all eternity, but "actions alone" can damn us temporarily.

What we believe is eternal, and has eternal consequences..... eventual
eternal salvation for all.

What we do is temporal, and has temporary consequences...... temporary
damnation for most, if not all.

Remember that the Bible says we will all be "salted with fire." I
interpret this to mean temporary damnation, or purgatory if you prefer
that word, for nearly everyone. And maybe everyone. We shall see.

[Dave]

On Aug 22, 10:34 pm, **Rowland Croucher**

Post by **Rowland Croucher**
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Post by Dave
For our standing with God is not based on what we do, but on what we
believe.

Not according to Jesus' parable in Matthew 25,,,
(The Devils *believe*...)

The attributions seem to be messed up, but I think that you are
responding to me. If not, sorry.

Perhaps you mean James 2:19: "Thou believest that there is one God;
thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." If that's the
verse that you are referring to, then it is clear that the devils do
not believe the right thing. The content of faith matters.

Dave

[**Rowland Croucher**]

Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Heaven full of atheists ?

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Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Would it be correct for me to ask a simple question, that if the
Christians (and similar religious people of the world) of the world
reacted as George Bush to the events of 9-11, would not heaven contain
a majority of atheists ?

George Bush responded very mildly. Many people expected him to use
Nukes immediately after 9-11. Even the liberal newspapers where I
live, were printing letters to the editor, calling for nukes. We were
very frustrated in how long it took him to attack Afghanistan.

The only reason why people fault him now, is because we have not been
hit again. But just wait until another major terrorist attack happens.
If you think you have seen America angry, you ain't seen nothing yet.

However, you other question is ambiguous. What do you believe makes
people get saved? Do you agree with the historic Christian doctrine
that you must place your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ,
in what Jesus did on the cross for us all, in order to be saved?

I personally believe that atheists (and other believers in false
religions) will be sent to hell for about 2000 years, before finally
being allowed into heaven. I base this on certain passages, like in
one of Peter's letters that talks about Jesus "preaching to the
spirits in prison" who had disobeyed "during Noah's flood." I intepret
this to mean that since Noah's flood was about 2000 years BC, this
means that disobedient spirits are sent to hell for about 2000 years
(roughly speaking), before being let out.

So I agree that many atheists will be in heaven. But once they get
there, they won't be atheists anymore, obviously.

[DKleinecke]

Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Heaven full of atheists ?

It would amazing if there is a single atheist is heaven. Even if one
lived and died a hard-core atheist as soon as they became aware of an
afterlife they would change over to theist.

So far as I know. all atheists ever claim is that there is no evidence
for God. Given evidence they will all convert.

Of course, we might try to imagine a heaven that contains as little
evidence of God as does our physical world. Proving God's presence in
heaven might be as hard as it is here. Mark Twain wrote down some of
his thoughts along that line.

The word "mystery" is correctly applied here. We will not know about
these things until we die.

Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Would it be correct for me to ask a simple question, that if the
Christians (and similar religious people of the world) of the world
reacted as George Bush to the events of 9-11, would not heaven contain
a majority of atheists ?

As stated, the answer to your question is NO. Asking it defines you as
a troll.

I hope you have higher goals in life than that.

[George]

Post by DKleinecke

Post by Caesar J. B. Squitti
Heaven full of atheists ?

It would amazing if there is a single atheist is heaven.

Assuming that heaven exists in the first place. By the way, theists for
centuries believed in the Aristotlian view of a geocentric universe (that
is, a universe where the Earth is at the center). In that view, the very
center of the Earth was the center of the universe. Interestingly, many of
these same theists viewed hell as being located deep within the Earth,
possibly the very center of the Earth. So, why would a religion take as a
tenent of its faith that the center of the universe is hell?

George