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[b***@allvantage.com]

Re: Oh and about Hallowe'en
Hi
I read your comments with great interest. As a born again Christian, I
consider Halloween as a holliday where evil is worshiped. Look at the
costumes...witches, ghost, goblins,etc. As Christians we should stay
away from this Holiday, loook at verse 1 Thess. 5:22 Stay away from all
forms of evil.

Hello,

Yes, Halloween is as bad as the pagan celebration of Easter. Many claim
Easter is celebrating Jesus' resurrection, but what do rabbits and
colored eggs have to do with Jesus' resurrection? Actually nothing, but
they have a lot to do with ancient pagan fertility symbols.

But some find no problem mixing the two things together, as long as one
has harmless 'fun'. But is that is how God sees it? True Christians
never mix the white (true Christian doctrine) and the black (demonic
teachings) to get 'grey'. Notice the principle stated by the apostle
Paul at 2 Co 6:14-17,

"14 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do
righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can
light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and
Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? 16 What
agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the
temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and
walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."
17 "Therefore come out from them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch
no unclean thing, and I will receive you."" (NIV)

Sincerely, James


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[B.G. Kent]

Post by b***@allvantage.com

Re: Oh and about Hallowe'en
Hi
I read your comments with great interest. As a born again Christian, I
consider Halloween as a holliday where evil is worshiped. Look at the
costumes...witches, ghost, goblins,etc. As Christians we should stay
away from this Holiday, loook at verse 1 Thess. 5:22 Stay away from all
forms of evil.

Hello,
Yes, Halloween is as bad as the pagan celebration of Easter. Many claim
Easter is celebrating Jesus' resurrection, but what do rabbits and
colored eggs have to do with Jesus' resurrection? Actually nothing, but
they have a lot to do with ancient pagan fertility symbols.
But some find no problem mixing the two things together, as long as one
has harmless 'fun'. But is that is how God sees it? True Christians
never mix the white (true Christian doctrine) and the black (demonic
teachings) to get 'grey'. Notice the principle stated by the apostle
Paul at 2 Co 6:14-17,

...

B- Who says those that are into Halloween are unbelievers? I am both a
Pagan person and a Christian and I love Samhain and the more North
American holiday of Halloween. There is no evil during Samhain..simply a
recognition of the those that have passed on before us. People wore
costumes to keep the "not so nice" ghosts and spirits away during this
special time between a new year and the old. We do it at evening because
the old Irish holidays begin traditionally at sunset to sunset. I don't
believe in a devil..never have...but I do believe in Christ and God. I'm
so amazed that so many of people in North America with Irish roots have
forgotten the old ways. It's sad I figure.

Bren

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by b***@allvantage.com

Re: Oh and about Hallowe'en
Hi
I read your comments with great interest. As a born again Christian,
I consider Halloween as a holliday where evil is worshiped. Look at
the costumes...witches, ghost, goblins,etc. As Christians we should
stay away from this Holiday, loook at verse 1 Thess. 5:22 Stay away
from all forms of evil.

Hello,
Yes, Halloween is as bad as the pagan celebration of Easter.

Easter is NOT a "pagan celebration". Neither is Christmas. Neither is
All Souls/Saints Day.

Post by b***@allvantage.com
Many claim Easter is celebrating Jesus' resurrection,

Yes, it is celebrating His resurrection.

Post by b***@allvantage.com
but what do rabbits and colored eggs have to do with Jesus'
resurrection?

I could turn this around and ask: what do rabbits have to do with
Easter? This is purely a Celtic thing. Neither the Greeks nor the
Russians have anything special for the "Easter bunny".

Post by b***@allvantage.com
Actually nothing, but they have a lot to do with ancient pagan
fertility symbols.

It is wrong to call colored eggs a "pagan fertility symbol". As you
might have seen in the news today on Yahoo, when they opened the
catacombs, they showed eggs as a symbol of the hope of resurrection.

Post by b***@allvantage.com
But some find no problem mixing the two things together, as long as
one has harmless 'fun'. But is that is how God sees it? True
Christians never mix the white (true Christian doctrine) and the
black (demonic teachings) to get 'grey'.

Which means that true Christians reject Jehovah's Witness doctrine,
whether false dogma or deranged practices, such as your rejection of
the great Holy Days, Christmas and Easter.

Post by b***@allvantage.com
Notice the principle stated
by the apostle Paul at 2 Co 6:14-17,

We do notice. That is why so many of us reject JW-ism.

[suneejan]

Easter should be a time of reflection of what Christ did on the cross
for us. Also Christmas should be a day to celebrateJesus birthday...my
family has a birthday party for Jesus without the tree and gifts for
each other. After all it is HIS birthday.

Post by b***@allvantage.com
Yes, Halloween is as bad as the pagan celebration of Easter. Many claim
Easter is celebrating Jesus' resurrection, but what do rabbits and
colored eggs have to do with Jesus' resurrection? Actually nothing, but
they have a lot to do with ancient pagan fertility symbols.

[B.G. Kent]

Post by suneejan
Easter should be a time of reflection of what Christ did on the cross
for us. Also Christmas should be a day to celebrateJesus birthday...my
family has a birthday party for Jesus without the tree and gifts for
each other. After all it is HIS birthday.

B - I celebrate both...Jesus's life ..and the story of the rebirth of the
Agricultural God and his young life on earth. I appeciate the spirit of
Eostre (the Germanic Goddess of Spring and newness) as a facet of God and
appreciate the new things....eggs, bunnies, gentle growth and the earth's
renewal. It is a gentle and tender time...a time to be renewed and
refreshed. Christmas/Yule is spent appreciating the birth of the God...and
Jesus as one facet of that God....the trees I appreciate at a sign of life
through the dead time of winter...and the lights and decorations as an
appreciation of the solstice sun which is at it's lowest but now growing.
So the birth of the son and the sun for me. I do this as a
Pagan-Christian.

Blessings
Bren

[h***@geneva.rutgers.edu]

Post by B.G. Kent
B - I celebrate both...Jesus's life ..and the story of the rebirth of the
Agricultural God and his young life on earth. I appeciate the spirit of
Eostre (the Germanic Goddess of Spring and newness) as a facet of God and
appreciate the new things....eggs, bunnies, gentle growth and the earth's
The Christmas tree s idol worship read Jeremiah10:2-5
How can you say you are a christian and apprerciate other Gods. God of
the Bible is the one true God ,the other gods are idols. A true
Christian will follow the first commandment. By your posts you do not
do this!

I wish this response had been by someone else. B.G. Kent is admittedly
not a conventional Christian. I have a problem with that response also.
I wouldn't want to identify Christ with the agricultural gods.

However applying Jer 10:2-5 to a Christmas tree is wierd. It's
referring to taking wood and turning it into an idol, i.e. something
like a statue.

[suneejan]

The Bible talks about how futile the custom of the Christmas tree is
and that we should not follow this custome. read Jertemiah 10:2-5.
Also, why break one of the commandments(you shall have no other gods
before ME..Ex 20:2-3) when you celebrate the other gods? True born
again beievers would not do this bu tfocus their main attention on God
and his teachings in the Bible!

Post by B.G. Kent

Post by suneejan
Easter should be a time of reflection of what Christ did on the cross
for us. Also Christmas should be a day to celebrateJesus birthday...my
family has a birthday party for Jesus without the tree and gifts for
each other. After all it is HIS birthday.

B - I celebrate both...Jesus's life ..and the story of the rebirth of the
Agricultural God and his young life on earth. I appeciate the spirit of
Eostre (the Germanic Goddess of Spring and newness) as a facet of God and
appreciate the new things....eggs, bunnies, gentle growth and the earth's
renewal. It is a gentle and tender time...a time to be renewed and
refreshed. Christmas/Yule is spent appreciating the birth of the God...and

...

[B.G. Kent]

Post by h***@geneva.rutgers.edu
I wish this response had been by someone else. B.G. Kent is admittedly
not a conventional Christian. I have a problem with that response also.
I wouldn't want to identify Christ with the agricultural gods.

B - Well some people see him as that. Not that he did not exist..but that
his story was patterned after agricultural gods...ie: born at Winter
Solstice, die and be reborn at Easter etc.

Post by h***@geneva.rutgers.edu
However applying Jer 10:2-5 to a Christmas tree is wierd. It's
referring to taking wood and turning it into an idol, i.e. something
like a statue.

B - Yes...and I've never seen anyone worship a tree besides that.

Blessings
Bren

[B.G. Kent]

Post by suneejan
The Bible talks about how futile the custom of the Christmas tree is
and that we should not follow this custome. read Jertemiah 10:2-5.
Also, why break one of the commandments(you shall have no other gods
before ME..Ex 20:2-3) when you celebrate the other gods? True born
again beievers would not do this bu tfocus their main attention on God
and his teachings in the Bible!

B - The Bible does not speak of Christmas trees as they were not even
heard of when the Bible was written.
As for the other thing you wrote...you don't understand. There is one
creator in my beliefs..but many manifestations of that creator. I believe
in ONE creator......and that that creator is within all.

Blessings
Bren

[suneejan]

Therre is only one true God who manifest into three identiies:God the
Father, the son and the Holy Spirit. this is mention inMatthew 28:19.
Al other gods are not gods but idols or things to take away our focus
on the one true God. 1Cor 8:4

Post by B.G. Kent

Post by suneejan
The Bible talks about how futile the custom of the Christmas tree is
and that we should not follow this custome. read Jertemiah 10:2-5.
Also, why break one of the commandments(you shall have no other gods
before ME..Ex 20:2-3) when you celebrate the other gods? True born
again beievers would not do this bu tfocus their main attention on God
and his teachings in the Bible!

B - The Bible does not speak of Christmas trees as they were not even
heard of when the Bible was written.
As for the other thing you wrote...you don't understand. There is one
creator in my beliefs..but many manifestations of that creator. I believe
in ONE creator......and that that creator is within all.
Blessings
Bren

[B.G. Kent]

Post by suneejan
Therre is only one true God who manifest into three identiies:God the
Father, the son and the Holy Spirit. this is mention inMatthew 28:19.
Al other gods are not gods but idols or things to take away our focus
on the one true God. 1Cor 8:4

B - God did not manifest in other ways too? how do you know? I see God in
everything...including the other gods. I focus on the creator all the time
by seeing its face in all.
If God is not in everything...then you have just limited God. HOw can God
be "away" from anything?
Can a child get rid of his parents DNA within him just by saying so?


Bren