Billy Graham

[* Rowland Croucher *]

BILLY GRAHAM

Billy Graham (whose wife Ruth died just a week ago) is a man of
integrity, and during his life-time probably spoke face-to-face with
more people than anyone in human history. His faith and ideas may be
simplistic in some ways, but his essential message - that we need God's
love and salvation and 'cleansing from our sins' - is the essence of
what Christianity is all about...

Here some of his friends, especially Bono, pay their tribute to this
great man:

[YouTube video]

Now my theology is a bit more 'progressive' than Billy Graham's, so what
should I do with that?

Colin Morris, a modern prophet (and, incidentally, past President of the
United Church of Zambia), in his challenging book Include Me Out:
Confessions of an Ecclesiastical Coward says it well: 'Let it be so much
as whispered that Billy Graham is en route for Britain to conduct
evangelistic meetings and some of the best brains in the Church mobilize
themselves to do a demolition job on him... A Church which can afford to
pour that much energy down the sewer has too much time on its hands. And
in the polluted atmosphere of clever malice that hangs over the Church
at such a time, our claim to offer a Gospel of Reconciliation rings as
hollow as the sales-pitch of a bald-headed man selling hair-restorer.'

-From my Blog on Interesting People

Visit http://1monthtomeet30interestingpeople.blogspot.com/ for more on
the interesting people I've known or heard or read about.

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[Matthew Johnson]

In article <8ZFei.9705$***@trnddc01>, * Rowland Croucher * says...
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His faith and ideas may be

Post by * Rowland Croucher *
simplistic in some ways, but his essential message - that we need God's
love and salvation and 'cleansing from our sins' - is the essence of
what Christianity is all about...

It never ceases to amaze me how many people make assertions like this, and then
are so surprised to discover how VERY controversial they are.

Why, in your version of his "essential message", Christ is not even mentioned.
Don't you think that should be a hint that your version is wrong?

In fact, any version shorter than the Nicene Creed is likely to run into serious
trouble with all the controversy it will stir up. That is _why_ they wrote the
Creed the way they did.

[snip]

[* Rowland Croucher *]

Post by Matthew Johnson
[snip]
His faith and ideas may be

Post by * Rowland Croucher *
simplistic in some ways, but his essential message - that we need God's
love and salvation and 'cleansing from our sins' - is the essence of
what Christianity is all about...

It never ceases to amaze me how many people make assertions like this, and then
are so surprised to discover how VERY controversial they are.
Why, in your version of his "essential message", Christ is not even mentioned.
Don't you think that should be a hint that your version is wrong?

I remember a conversation I had as a young university staffworker with
Dr Leon Morris, the evangelical Anglican scholar. How do you relate
Christ to God? I asked. He responded roughly 'It's like talking about
Hamlet or the Prince of Denmark'

Post by Matthew Johnson
In fact, any version shorter than the Nicene Creed is likely to run into serious
trouble with all the controversy it will stir up. That is _why_ they wrote the
Creed the way they did.

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Matthew: I was wondering recently, Do you ever post any original stuff
you've written on this group? Do you ever preach? I'd be interested in
reading one of your sermons... or anything that originates with your
mind and keyboard...

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Shalom/Salaam! Rowland Croucher

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/ (20,000 articles 4000 humor)

Blogs - http://rowlandsblogs.blogspot.com/

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[Matthew Johnson]

[snip]

Post by * Rowland Croucher *
I remember a conversation I had as a young university staffworker with
Dr Leon Morris, the evangelical Anglican scholar. How do you relate
Christ to God? I asked. He responded roughly 'It's like talking about
Hamlet or the Prince of Denmark'

And what do you think he _meant_ by that? It sounds more like an evasion than an
answer to me.

Post by * Rowland Croucher *

Post by Matthew Johnson
In fact, any version shorter than the Nicene Creed is likely to run into serious
trouble with all the controversy it will stir up.
That is _why_ they wrote the
Creed the way they did.

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Matthew: I was wondering recently, Do you ever post any original stuff
you've written on this group?

Why are you asking this? _Everything_ I post here is original. I use citations
and quotes in my posts, but I do not construct my posts entirely out of quotes,
nor do I post here works originally written for a different medium.

Post by * Rowland Croucher *
Do you ever preach? I'd be interested in
reading one of your sermons... or anything that originates with your
mind and keyboard...

I think you can get a a good enough sampling of that by using Google on these
NGs. But again, I am surprised that you ask this. Writing NG posts and writing
sermons are very different activities. There is some overlap on the skills
required, but some of the worst posts I have seen were written by authors who
did not understand the difference.

The best posts I have read were written by those who understood the huge
difference because the NG is _interactive_. Sermons are not. Neither are essays.

[B.G. Kent]

He's a wonderful man....he's not enlightened about homosexuality
...sadly...but he does have a heart.

Blessings
Bren

[* Rowland Croucher *]

Post by B.G. Kent
He's a wonderful man....he's not enlightened about homosexuality
...sadly...but he does have a heart.
Blessings
Bren

He's also not enlightened about a couple of other subjects as well - see
a Blog I'm producing on him (and others, including his wife, just
deceased) -

http://1monthtomeet30interestingpeople.blogspot.com/search/label/BILLY%20GRAHAM
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Shalom/Salaam! Rowland Croucher

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/ (20,000 articles 4000 humor)

Blogs - http://rowlandsblogs.blogspot.com/

Justice for Dawn Rowan - http://dawnrowansaga.blogspot.com/

Funny Jokes and Pics - http://funnyjokesnpics.blogspot.com/