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Born-again Christians more likely to divorce
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shegeek72
2006-11-28 05:39:25 UTC
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U.S. divorce rates for various faith groups, age groups, & geographic
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

Divorce rates among Christian groups:

The slogan: "The family that prays together, stays together" is well
known. There has been much anecdotal evidence that has led to
"unsubstantiated claims that the divorce rate for Christians who
attended church regularly, pray together or who meet other conditions
is only 1 or 2 percent". 8 [Emphasis ours]. Dr. Tom Ellis, chairman of
the Southern Baptist Convention's Council on the Family said that for
"...born-again Christian couples who marry...in the church after having
received premarital counseling...and attend church regularly and pray
daily together..." experience only 1 divorce out of nearly 39,000
marriages -- or 0.00256 percent.

A recent study by the Barna Research Group throws extreme doubt on
these estimates. Barna released the results of their poll about divorce
on 1999-DEC-21. 1 They had interviewed 3,854 adults from the 48
contiguous states. The margin of error is within 2 percentage points.

The survey found:
11% of the adult population is currently divorced.
25% of adults have had at least one divorce during their lifetime.
Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significently higher
than for other faith groups, and for Atheists and Agnostics.

George Barna, president and founder of Barna Research Group, commented:

"While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are
more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been
in place for quite some time. Even more disturbing, perhaps, is that
when those individuals experience a divorce many of them feel their
community of faith provides rejection rather than support and healing.
But the research also raises questions regarding the effectiveness of
how churches minister to families. The ultimate responsibility for a
marriage belongs to the husband and wife, but the high incidence of
divorce within the Christian community challenges the idea that
churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for
marriages."

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suneejan
2006-11-29 01:55:30 UTC
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U.S. divorce rates for various faith groups, age groups, & geographic
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
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A recent study by the Barna Research Group throws extreme doubt on
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11% of the adult population is currently divorced.
25% of adults have had at least one divorce during their lifetime.
Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significently higher
than for other faith groups, and for Atheists and Agnostics.
It is sad that divorce is mors likely to occur among the born again
Christians. But that does not surprise me. Because Satan know that
there is power when two born again christians pray and work together
especially in a marriage. So satan will try to create disharmony
between the husband and wife.
qquito
2006-12-01 03:07:43 UTC
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Why is it good for God to create a Satan while He foresaw that Satan
would create such disharmony and other evils? If it is good, shouldn't
we celebrate that Satan's creation of such disharmony is just
realization of God's plan?
... Because Satan know that
there is power when two born again christians pray and work together
especially in a marriage. So satan will try to create disharmony
between the husband and wife.
l***@hotmail.com
2006-11-29 01:55:34 UTC
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1) your persupposition that "christian"/"church goer" equates in God's
definition of the word, "born again" is unsupported and
unsubstantiated.

2) the written Word of God testifies to the fact that this is to be
expected in the last days. "As in the days of Noah they will be
marrying and giving in marriage." In the last days there will be a
falling way, and lack of adhereing to stated/written precepts of God.

3) the written Word of God testifies that the "church" of the last days
will be "lukewarm."

As for the percentages, it is slightly less than half of "church goers"
or those who "state with their lips" that they are born again
believers, will divorce. It is no higher, no lower than the pagan
culture which surrounds us.

Again, you only prove the fact that "many are called but few are
[actually] choosen."
zach
2006-11-29 01:55:36 UTC
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Post by shegeek72
U.S. divorce rates for various faith groups, age groups, & geographic
areas
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
The slogan: "The family that prays together, stays together" is well
known. There has been much anecdotal evidence that has led to
"unsubstantiated claims that the divorce rate for Christians who
attended church regularly, pray together or who meet other conditions
is only 1 or 2 percent". 8 [Emphasis ours]. Dr. Tom Ellis, chairman of
the Southern Baptist Convention's Council on the Family said that for
"...born-again Christian couples who marry...in the church after having
received premarital counseling...and attend church regularly and pray
daily together..." experience only 1 divorce out of nearly 39,000
marriages -- or 0.00256 percent.
A recent study by the Barna Research Group throws extreme doubt on
these estimates.
No, it does not. The survey asked if people had ever experienced
divorce. This is something completely different than if it had asked if
they had experienced divorce after becoming Christian (i.e.,
"born-again"). therefore, it is not a "rate" of divorce among
Christians _that correlates with them being Christians_. Notice the
rate among pastors, something which is usually a calling from a young
age (people who are usually life-long "born-again" Christians), is 3%.

The bottom line is that many who identify with being "born-again"
become Christians later in life. A good friend of mine is an elder in
his church, but he is divorced. However: one, his wife comitted
adultery and left him; and two, this happened before he became a
Christian. Therefore, his having "experienced" divorce has nothing
whatsoever to do with the fact of his being a born-again Christian. It
does not correlate.

But even considering that factor, which the survey does not (please,
someone point it out to me if I missed it), Christians _are_ permitted
divorce under circumstances of adultery (the other partner cheats), or
if one partner becomes a Christian and the other partner doesn't want
to live with the new Christian and decides to leave the marriage.
gilgames
2006-11-30 02:00:14 UTC
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<<
But even considering that factor, which the survey does not (please,
someone point it out to me if I missed it), Christians _are_ permitted
divorce under circumstances of adultery (the other partner cheats), or
if one partner becomes a Christian and the other partner doesn't want
to live with the new Christian and decides to leave the marriage.
The original statement was that

"...born-again Christian couples who marry...in the church after
having received premarital counseling...and attend church regularly
and pray daily together..." experience only 1 divorce out of nearly
39,000 marriages -- or 0.00256 percent.

I don't know about the born again Christians, but usually first at
least one party stops to attend Church / pray daily together than they
divorce.

Hundred years ago there was practically no divorce, due to the common
sense: the children and the traditions worth more than the new
legalized affair. There were infidelities but no divorce. The world
was better.

laszlo
Jeff Caird
2006-11-30 02:00:14 UTC
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Post by shegeek72
U.S. divorce rates for various faith groups, age groups, & geographic
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
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Post by zach
No, it does not. The survey asked if people had ever experienced
divorce. This is something completely different than if it had asked if
they had experienced divorce after becoming Christian (i.e.,
...

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics." (sigh)
Dionisio
2006-11-30 02:00:18 UTC
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Post by zach
No, it does not. The survey asked if people had ever experienced
divorce. This is something completely different than if it had asked if
they had experienced divorce after becoming Christian (i.e.,
"born-again"). therefore, it is not a "rate" of divorce among
Christians _that correlates with them being Christians_. Notice the
rate among pastors, something which is usually a calling from a young
age (people who are usually life-long "born-again" Christians), is 3%.
Note that most Christian pastors are required to be celibate...
Post by zach
But even considering that factor, which the survey does not (please,
someone point it out to me if I missed it), Christians _are_ permitted
divorce under circumstances of adultery (the other partner cheats), or
if one partner becomes a Christian and the other partner doesn't want
to live with the new Christian and decides to leave the marriage.
<LOL!!!>

Christians whom become Christian are offensive to their Christian
marriage partners? Who knew?
Jeff Caird
2006-12-01 03:07:42 UTC
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Note that most Christian pastors are required to be celibate...
Wrong. Only Roman Catholic priests.
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