Was Jesus a 'Christian'? (I doubt it)

[**Rowland Croucher**]

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On Jul 29, 7:58 pm, **Rowland Croucher**

Post by **Rowland Croucher**
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King of the Jews He was.

[Dave]

Jesus definitely was not a Christian. A Christian is a follower of
Christ. Christ does not follow himself. He is the leader (head) of the
assembly of all of his followers.

Dave

[Zor-El of Argo City]

Jesus of Nazareth was a devout Jew. His mission was to act as the
Messiah for the Jewish peoples. His followers eventually grew away from
their Jewish roots. See the book of Acts for an acount of this
divrergence beginning.

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[B.G. Kent]

Post by Zor-El of Argo City
Jesus of Nazareth was a devout Jew. His mission was to act as the
Messiah for the Jewish peoples. His followers eventually grew away from
their Jewish roots. See the book of Acts for an acount of this
divrergence beginning.
NUCLEAR POWER: The global warming solution!

B - do you know that at the time of Jesus there was no place called
Nazareth?
Bren

[zach]

Post by B.G. Kent
B - do you know that at the time of Jesus there was no place called
Nazareth?

That is interesting. So what _was_ it called?

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by B.G. Kent

Post by Zor-El of Argo City
Jesus of Nazareth was a devout Jew. His mission was to act as the
Messiah for the Jewish peoples. His followers eventually grew away from
their Jewish roots. See the book of Acts for an acount of this
divrergence beginning.
NUCLEAR POWER: The global warming solution!

B - do you know that at the time of Jesus there was no place called
Nazareth?

I have heard this claim before. It is not true. What is true is that we have no
archeological evidence of its existence at that time. But that is not the same
thing at all.

[B.G. Kent]

Post by zach

Post by B.G. Kent
B - do you know that at the time of Jesus there was no place called
Nazareth?

That is interesting. So what _was_ it called?

The Essene community was referred to as the Nazrie Ha Brit(Keepers of the
Covenant) , and it was from this name that the term Nazarene derived. The
Islamic Koran refers to Christians as Nazara, and a general Arabic
expression for them is Nasrani.
One of the most misleading errors of the New Testament occurs in the
translation of this Palestinian terminology. At the outset of Jesus'
story, Matthew 2:23 makes it clear that Jesus was a 'Nazarene', but it is
suggested that this was because his parents came from Nazareth. There is,
in fact, no record of Nazareth's existence at this time. It is not
mentioned in the Hebrew Talmud, nor in any of the letters of st. paul. The
name is absent from the Roman archive and from all the historical writings
of Josephus. Indeed, Nazareth is not to be found in any book,map,chronicle
or military record of the period so far discovered.
In practice, Nazarenes of the Gospel era had nothing whatsoever to do with
a town called Nazareth that was to be settled and named in later times.
L. Gardner.


Jesus was a Nazarene..but not of Nazareth.



Blessings
Bren

[DKleinecke]

Post by zach

Post by B.G. Kent
B - do you know that at the time of Jesus there was no place called
Nazareth?

That is interesting. So what _was_ it called?

I thing it was Jerome who first pointed this out. Or maybe Eusebios.
One of those old fathers. Eventually archeologists dug in the site.
They found nothing as old as the time of Jesus - so the old tradition
remained unchanged.

Lately it has been pointed out that Nazareth is only three or four
miles from Sopporis which was a boom town in Jesus' day (even if it is
not mentioned in the Gospels). A Nazareth that was no more than a
bedroom community for Sopporis might leave very little evidence.

So the question is still up in the air. The traditional belief is
that Nazareth was not there - the revisionists see no reason why it
couldn't be.

The fact that Nazareth was so obscure has convinced most of the
hardened skeptics that one of the few reliable facts we have about
Jesus is that he was from Nazareth.

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by B.G. Kent

Post by zach

Post by B.G. Kent
B - do you know that at the time of Jesus there was no place called
Nazareth?

That is interesting. So what _was_ it called?

The Essene community was referred to as the Nazrie Ha Brit(Keepers of the
Covenant) , and it was from this name that the term Nazarene derived.

Not true. This false etymology is sheer speculation originally proposed long
before you by open enemies of Christianity. It has no basis in fact, and it is
NOT believed by serious philologists, whose specialty is etymology.

[snip]

[Burkladies]

Was Jesus a Christian? not really. He was an Essene, a mystical Jew
who was radical and died so christianity could eventually occur.
Although centuries of greed and slaughter have passed as Jesus'
followers figured out what christian is. Christianity did not exist
then, certainly not as it does now. The Messiah's ideas were illegal
and against society. I am glad he was the last blood and human
sacfrice for the demiurge, god of slavery, Jehovah of the Jews.
Because I not a Jew, I'm free of that nastiness!

[Matthew Johnson]

Post by Burkladies
Was Jesus a Christian? not really. He was an Essene,

This is an old myth. I thought it had died out by now.

[snip]

Post by Burkladies
I am glad he was the last blood and human
sacfrice for the demiurge, god of slavery, Jehovah of the Jews.

This is a different old myth. Why, just the fact that you would use the word
'demiurge' reveals your religious affiliation as more Gnostic than Christian.

Post by Burkladies
Because I not a Jew, I'm free of that nastiness!

But you chose for yourself a far more nasty form of nastiness, Gnosticism.

[B.G. Kent]

Post by Burkladies
Was Jesus a Christian? not really. He was an Essene, a mystical Jew
who was radical and died so christianity could eventually occur.
Although centuries of greed and slaughter have passed as Jesus'
followers figured out what christian is. Christianity did not exist
then, certainly not as it does now. The Messiah's ideas were illegal
and against society. I am glad he was the last blood and human
sacfrice for the demiurge, god of slavery, Jehovah of the Jews.
Because I not a Jew, I'm free of that nastiness!

B - I don't believe he died on the cross...I believe he was taken down
whilst still alive...appeared before the masses one last time and moved to
France with his pregnant wife Mary Magdelene.

well to each his/her own.

Bren