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The True Message of Jesus Christ
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Javed Iqbal Kaleem
2007-12-28 03:41:09 UTC
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when humanity is celebrating the birth anniversary of Jesus Christ,
one of the most important man every born, let us have a look at a
forgotten Chapter of his guidance.



Jesus Preaches at Jerusalem

'Accordingly, brothers, I a man, dust and clay that walk upon the
earth, say unto you: Do penance and know your sins. I say, brethren,
that Satan, by
means of the Roman soldiery, deceived you when ye said that I was God.
Wherefore beware that ye believe them not, seeing they are fallen
under the curse of God, serving the false and lying gods ; even as our
father David invoketh a curse upon them, saying: " The gods of the
nations are silver and
gold, the work of their hands ; that have eyes and see not, have ears
and hear
not , have noses and smell not, have a mouth and eat not, have a
tongue and speak not, have hands and touc not, have feet and walk
not." Wherefore said David our father, praying our Living God, " Like
unto them be they that make them and they that trust in them."

'O pride, unheard-of, this pride of man, who being created by God
out of
earth forgetteth his condition and would fain make God at his own
pleasure! Wherein he silently mocketh God, as though he should say : "
There is no use in serving God. " For so do their works show. To
this did Satan desire to reduce you, O brethren, in making you believe
me to be God ; because I not being able to create a fly, and being
passable and mortal, I can give you nothing of use, seeing that I
myself have need of everything. How, then could I help you in all
things , as it is proper to God to do ?

" Shall we, then who have for our God the great God who hath created
the universe with his word, mock at the Gentiles and their gods? '


Gospel of
Barnabas: 128

Unfortunately the clergy has picked and choosed from Gospels that
reached us. Who it the right to conceal whatever it likes and reveal
whatever it chooses? Let the humanity examine all Gospels and decide
for itself what is the real message of Jesus Christ.


Javed Iqbal

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[See http://geneva/src/faq/gospel-barnabas.txt
Unfortunately this is a medieval forgery. --clh]
Matthew Johnson
2008-01-01 04:59:04 UTC
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Post by Javed Iqbal Kaleem
when humanity is celebrating the birth anniversary of Jesus Christ,
one of the most important man every born, let us have a look at a
forgotten Chapter of his guidance.
As the Moderator already pointed out, this was not 'forgotten'. Rather, He never
said those things.

[snip]
Post by Javed Iqbal Kaleem
[See http://geneva/src/faq/gospel-barnabas.txt
Unfortunately this is a medieval forgery. --clh]
Unfortunately, the Moderator did not get the URL correct -- even though the site
is his:-( The entry about the 'gospel' of Barnabas is really at
http://geneva.rutgers.edu/src/faq/gospel-barnabas.txt.
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
Gordon
2008-01-02 01:53:24 UTC
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:59:04 GMT, Matthew Johnson
Post by Matthew Johnson
Post by Javed Iqbal Kaleem
when humanity is celebrating the birth anniversary of Jesus Christ,
one of the most important man every born, let us have a look at a
forgotten Chapter of his guidance.
As the Moderator already pointed out, this was not 'forgotten'. Rather, He never
said those things.
But, Abu Bakr said that Muhammad said that Gabriel said that
Jesus said these things. How could they all be wrong???
Post by Matthew Johnson
[snip]
Post by Javed Iqbal Kaleem
[See http://geneva/src/faq/gospel-barnabas.txt
Unfortunately this is a medieval forgery. --clh]
Unfortunately, the Moderator did not get the URL correct -- even though the site
is his:-( The entry about the 'gospel' of Barnabas is really at
http://geneva.rutgers.edu/src/faq/gospel-barnabas.txt.
Matthew Johnson
2008-01-03 01:44:55 UTC
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In article <o8Cej.3461$***@trndny05>, Gordon says...
[snip]
Post by Gordon
Post by Matthew Johnson
As the Moderator already pointed out, this was not 'forgotten'. Rather, He never
said those things.
But, Abu Bakr said that Muhammad said that Gabriel said that
Jesus said these things. How could they all be wrong???
Easily?

[snip]
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
Matthew Johnson
2008-01-12 20:38:24 UTC
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In article <o8Cej.3461$***@trndny05>, Gordon says...
[snip]
Post by Gordon
Post by Matthew Johnson
As the Moderator already pointed out, this was not 'forgotten'. Rather, He never
said those things.
But, Abu Bakr said that Muhammad said that Gabriel said that
Jesus said these things. How could they all be wrong???
Easily?

[snip]
--
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
Gordon
2008-01-02 01:53:24 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:41:09 GMT, Javed Iqbal Kaleem
<***@gmail.com> wrote:
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Post by Javed Iqbal Kaleem
Gospel of
Barnabas: 128
Unfortunately the clergy has picked and choosed from Gospels that
reached us. Who it the right to conceal whatever it likes and reveal
whatever it chooses? Let the humanity examine all Gospels and decide
for itself what is the real message of Jesus Christ.
Javed Iqbal
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[See http://geneva/src/faq/gospel-barnabas.txt
Unfortunately this is a medieval forgery. --clh]
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he
that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
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