Discussion:
End Of The Illuminati
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Frank
2007-11-19 01:58:58 UTC
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The illuminati that has controlled
the nations in hidden mystery
by its wealth thru millennia,
worshiping and obeying
Lucifer, the fallen angel,
and leading rebellions against God
(the Jewish, Catholic, Protestant),
and yet to rule thru Rome,
now begins to come to its end:

Mystery
Babylon The Great
The Mother Of Prostitutes
And Of The Abominations Of The Earth.
(Revelation 17:5 NIV)

For the secret power of lawlessness
is already at work;
but the one who now holds it back
will continue to do so
till he is taken out of the way.
(2 Thessalonians 2:7)

The woman you saw is the great city
that rules over the kings of the earth.
(Revelation 17:18)

Woe! Woe, O great city,
O Babylon, city of power!
In one hour your doom has come!
(Revelation 18:10)

By your magic spell
all the nations were led astray.
In her was found the blood
of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed
on the earth.
(verses 23-24)

So bold and brazen
has the illuminati become
that it openly brought down
the towers of the World Trade Center
on 911 by controlled demolition,
hiding only under cover
of ramming planes.

It is quite confident
that it will never be destroyed:

I sit as queen; I am not a widow,
and I will never mourn.
(Revelation 18:7)

But it has great concern
about the kingdom of God
being fully birthed on earth
by Christ redeeming those
he has before chosen
to be his 24 elders,
and therefore it waits
to destroy the kingdom
at the moment of its birth:

The dragon stood in front of the woman
who was about to give birth,
so that he might devour her child
the moment it was born.
(Revelation 12:4)

Christ will snatch the kingdom up,
its elders and all who trust in him alone,
in the Rapture unto God and his throne,
so that the kingdom is not destroyed:

She gave birth to a son, a male child,
who will rule all the nations
with an iron scepter.
And her child was snatched up
to God and to his throne.
(verse 5)

In heaven, the kingdom, the brethren,
will judge the devil and his angels
to cast them down to the earth
by the angels of God
so that the kingdom reigns in heaven:

Now have come the salvation
and the power and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Christ.
For the accuser of our brothers,
who accuses them before our God
day and night,
has been hurled down.
(verse 10)

During the Great Tribulation on earth
that comes after the devil is cast down,
many others will be added to the kingdom:

Then one of the elders asked me,
"These in white robes--who are they,
and where did they come from?"
I answered, "Sir, you know."
And he said, "These are they
who have come out of
the great tribulation;
they have washed their robes
and made them white
in the blood of the Lamb."
(Revelation 7:13-14)

Then when the seventh trumpet sounds,
the illuminati will be destroyed
from the face of the earth
inasmuch as the kingdom of God
will reign over the earth:

"The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ,
and he will reign for ever and ever."
And the twenty-four elders,
who were seated on their thrones
before God,
fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying:
"We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign."
(Revelation 11:15-17)
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B.G. Kent
2007-11-20 02:24:36 UTC
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Post by Frank
The illuminati that has controlled
the nations in hidden mystery
by its wealth thru millennia,
worshiping and obeying
Lucifer
* Lucifer was not used in the Bible..and was the name given to light or
knowledge.

Bren
(who in no way endorses the illuminati..or the skull and bones for that
matter!)
Matthew Johnson
2007-11-26 00:29:58 UTC
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Post by Frank
The illuminati that has controlled
the nations in hidden mystery
by its wealth thru millennia,
worshiping and obeying
Lucifer
* Lucifer was not used in the Bible..and was the name given to light or
knowledge.
As usual, you are wrong here. 'Lucifer' is used in a very negative sense in one
passage (Isa 14:12) and a very positive sense in another (2 Pet 1;19).
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Subducat se sibi ut haereat Deo
Quidquid boni habet tribuat illi a quo factus est
(Sanctus Aurelius Augustinus, Ser. 96)
Steve Hayes
2007-11-27 01:32:27 UTC
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Post by B.G. Kent
* Lucifer was not used in the Bible..and was the name given to light or
knowledge.
As usual, you are wrong here. 'Lucifer' is used in a very negative sense in one
passage (Isa 14:12) and a very positive sense in another (2 Pet 1;19).
And then, of course, there is Revelation 22:16.
--
The unworthy deacon,
Stephen Methodius Hayes
Contact: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
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B.G. Kent
2007-11-28 04:41:45 UTC
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Post by B.G. Kent
* Lucifer was not used in the Bible..and was the name given to light or
knowledge.
As usual, you are wrong here. 'Lucifer' is used in a very negative sense in one
passage (Isa 14:12) and a very positive sense in another (2 Pet 1;19).
And then, of course, there is Revelation 22:16.
B - are we talking the original scripts or the King James?

Bren
Steve Hayes
2007-11-29 02:19:31 UTC
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Post by B.G. Kent
* Lucifer was not used in the Bible..and was the name given to light or
knowledge.
As usual, you are wrong here. 'Lucifer' is used in a very negative sense in one
passage (Isa 14:12) and a very positive sense in another (2 Pet 1;19).
And then, of course, there is Revelation 22:16.
B - are we talking the original scripts or the King James?
What difference does it make?

And no, I don't want to get into a discussion of the merits of different Bible
translations. I'm interested in discussion of the imagery of the "morning
star" (Eosphoros, Lucifer) in the Bible and in Christian theology.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
B.G. Kent
2007-11-30 03:41:37 UTC
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Post by B.G. Kent
B - are we talking the original scripts or the King James?
What difference does it make?
B - what difference does it make if it is in one translation of the Bible?
Post by Steve Hayes
And no, I don't want to get into a discussion of the merits of different Bible
translations. I'm interested in discussion of the imagery of the "morning
star" (Eosphoros, Lucifer) in the Bible and in Christian theology.
B - Okay then....want some gum?

Bren
Steve Hayes
2007-12-03 02:12:03 UTC
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B - Okay then....want some gum?
"Do you believe in God?"
"What?"
"Do you believe in God?"
"Who?"
"God -- do you believe in him?"
(Pause)
"Have a biscuit."

(Harold Pinter, "The dwarfs")

At balls and dinner parties I'm always the only one
who's quite unable to make polite conversation
my questions are too simple to be misunderstood
like "What's your name?", "Do you smoke a pipe?" or "Do you believe in God?"
not to be sensible
is a sin that's reprehensible
and that is why
they say that I
am not respectable.

(Jeremy Taylor)
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
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