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CHRISTIAN WRONG DOCTRINE
2006-06-12 01:28:12 UTC
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Calvinism Refuted Total hereditary depravity (or Inherited Sin) ,
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As defined by these official denominational creeds
Webster Dictionary:
"the utter depravity of man which Calvinists regard as due to original sin
and as persisting until regeneration through the Spirit of God."

John Calvin, the father of Calvinism said:

"there are babies a span long in hell." (meaning there are almost no newborn
children in heaven.)

Summary of Christian Doctrine, by Louis Berkhof, pg. 76
"(1) Original sin. This includes both guilt and pollution. The guilt of
Adam's sin is imputed to us. Because he sinned as our representative, we are
guilty in him. Moreover, we also inherit his pollution, and now have a
positive disposition toward sin. Man is by nature totally depraved."

The Five Points of Calvinism, by Edwin H. Palmer, pg. 122
(He quotes from The Belgic Confession of Faith Article XV)
"We believe that through the disobedience of Adam original sin is extended
to all mankind; which is a corruption of the whole nature and a hereditary
disease, wherewith even infants in their mother's womb are infected, and
which produces in man all sorts of sin, being in him as a root thereof, and
therefore is so vile and abominable in the sight of God that it is
sufficient to condemn all mankind."

Charles Hodge's Systematic Theology:
"8. _The Effects of Adam's Sin upon his Posterity. " That the sin of Adam
injured not himself only but also all descending from him by ordinary
generation, is part of the faith of the whole Christian world."..."As to the
ground of these evils, we are taught that 'the covenant being made with Adam
not only for himself, but for his posterity, all mankind descending from him
by ordinary generation, sinned in him, and fell with him in his first
transgression.' Or, as is expressed in the Confession, 'Our first parents,
being the root of all mankind, the guilt of their sin was imputed, and the
same death in sin and corrupted nature were conveyed to all their posterity,
descending from them by ordinary generation." (Vol. II, Part
II-Anthropology)

Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion:
Book II, Chap. I: 8: "But lest the thing itself of which we speak be unknown
or doubtful, it will be proper to define original sin (Calvin, in Conc.
Trident. I., Dec. Sess. v.). I have no intention, however, to discuss all
the definitions which different writers have adopted, but only to adduce the
one which seems to me most accordant with truth. Original sin, then, may be
defined a hereditary corruption and depravity of our nature, extending to
all parts of the soul, which first makes us obnoxious to the wrath of God,
and then produces in us works which in Scripture are termed works of the
flesh. This corruption is repeatedly designated by Paul by the term sin
(Gal. v.19)...."

The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination, by Loraine Boettner, pg. 77
"Adam was made not only the father but also the representative of the whole
human race. And if we fully understood the closeness of the relation between
him and them we would fully realize the justice of the transmission of his
sin to them."

Presbyterian:
Confession of Faith: "Our first parents, being seduced by the subtlety and
temptation of Satan, sinned in eating the forbidden fruit. This their sin,
God was pleased, according to his wise and holy counsel, to permit, having
purposed to order it to his own glory. By this sin they fell from their
original righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin,
and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts of the soul and body. They
being the root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed and the
same death in sin and corrupted nature conveyed to all their posterity
descending from them by ordinary generation. From this original corruption,
whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good,
and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions."

Roman Catholic:
Council of Trent 1545-1563: "Adam's first sin has been transmitted to all
his descendants". Questions of Catholics Answered by W. Hebst: "Yes, every
child born into this world has the guilt of original sin upon his soul.
Original sin is the sin that we inherit from our first parents. Original sin
excludes us from heaven unless forgiven. It is forgiven only by baptism,
hence when an unbaptized baby dies, it can not enter the kingdom of God."

Lutheran:
Augsburg confession Article 2: "It is also taught among us that since the
fall of Adam all men who are born according to the course of nature are
conceived and born in sin. That is, all men are full of evil lust and
inclination from their mother's womb and are unable by nature to have true
fear of God and true faith in God. Moreover, this inborn sickness and
hereditary sin is truly sin and condemns to the eternal wrath of God all
whose who are not born again through baptism and the Holy Spirit."

Methodist:
Methodist Discipline: (Since) "infants are guilty of original sin, then they
are proper subjects of baptism, seeing in the ordinary way, they cannot be
saved unless this be washed away by baptism. It has already been proved that
this original sin cleaves to every child of man, and hereby they are
children of wrath and liable to eternal damnation."

Anglican:
Common Book of Prayer, Articles of Religion IX & X: "Original sin standeth
not in the following of Adam, but it is the fault and corruption of the
nature of every man, that naturally is ingendered of the offspring of Adam;
whereby man is very far gone from original righteousness, and is of his own
nature inclined to evil, so that the flesh lusteth always contrary to the
spirit; and therefore in every person born into this world, it deserveth
God's wrath and damnation. And this infection of nature doth remain, yea in
them that are regenerated; whereby the lust of the flesh, called in the
Greek... which some do expound the wisdom, some sensuality, some the
affection, some the desire, of the flesh, is not subject to the Law of God.
And although there is no condemnation for them that believe and are
baptized, yet the Apostle doth confess, that concupiscence and lust hath of
itself the nature of sin." "The condition of man after the fall of Adam is
such, that he cannot turn and prepare himself, by his own natural strength
and good works, to faith, and calling upon God: Wherefore we have no power
to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God, without the grace of God by
Christ preventing us, that we may have a good will, and working with us,
when we have that good will."

Church of the Nazarene:
Manual, Article 5: "We believe that sin came into the world through the
disobedience of our first parents, and death by sin. We believe that sin is
of two kinds: original sin or depravity, and actual or personal sin. We
believe that original sin, or depravity, is that corruption of the nature of
all the offspring of Adam by reason of which everyone is very far gone from
the original righteousness or the pure state of our first parents at the
time of their creation, is averse to God, is without spiritual life, and
inclined to evil, and that continually. We further believe that original sin
continues to exist with the new life of the regenerate, until eradicated by
the baptism with the Holy Spirit. We believe that original sin differs from
actual sin in that it constitutes an inherited propensity to actual sin for
which no one is accountable until its divinely provided remedy is neglected
or rejected."

Christian and Missionary Alliance:
Manual, Statement of faith Article III # 5: "Man was Originally created in
the image and likeness of God; he fell through disobedience, incurring
thereby both physical and spiritual death. All men are born with a sinful
nature, are separated from the life of God, and can be saved only through
the atoning work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pentecostal:
Statement of Fundamental and Essential Truths: Article IV: "Man was
Originally created in the image and likeness of God. He fell through sin,
and as a consequence, incurred both spiritual and physical death. Spiritual
death and the depravity of human nature have been transmitted to the entire
human race with the exception of the Man Jesus. Man can be saved only
through the atoning work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Baptist:
Philadelphia Confession of Faith: "Our first parents by this sin fell from
their original righteousness and communion with God, and we in them, whereby
death came upon all, all becoming dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the
faculties and parts of the souls and body. The guilt of sin was imputed (and
corrupt nature conveyed) to all their posterity descending from them by
ordinary generation, being now conceived in sin, the subjects of death and
all other spiritual miseries, temporal and eternal, unless the Lord Jesus
set them free. From the original corruption-whereby we are utterly
indisposed disabled, and made opposite to all good and wholly inclined to
all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions."

Associated Gospel Churches "AGC"
Articles of Faith and Doctrine V & VI: "We believe that man, originally
created in the image and after the likeness of God, fell from his high and
holy estate through disobedience, by eating the forbidden fruit, and in
consequence, the threatened penalty of death was then and there inflicted,
so that he totally lost all spiritual life, becoming dead in trespasses and
sins, and subject to the power of the devil." "We believe that this
spiritual death, or total corruption of human nature, has been transmitted
to the entire race of man, the man Christ Jesus alone excepted, and hence
that every child of Adam is born into the world with a sinful nature."


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Paul
2006-06-13 01:35:52 UTC
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"CHRISTIAN WRONG DOCTRINE" <***@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:Mq3jg.3125$***@trnddc05...
<snipped a great variety of positional statements on original sin>

So..... Are you claiming that all of these are specifically Calvinist?
(That would be simply incorrect.)

Or.... that some of them "refute" others? (If so, which are which?)

Or.... what is really the point -- aside from advertising a website (which
I didn't choose to visit given the confused nature of the posting)?

Not trying to "attack", I'm just confused about the point of the
posting.....

In Christ,
Paul
Matthew Johnson
2006-06-14 03:02:54 UTC
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Post by Paul
<snipped a great variety of positional statements on original sin>
So..... Are you claiming that all of these are specifically Calvinist?
(That would be simply incorrect.)
Or.... that some of them "refute" others? (If so, which are which?)
Or.... what is really the point -- aside from advertising a website (which
I didn't choose to visit given the confused nature of the posting)?
Not trying to "attack", I'm just confused about the point of the
posting.....
You are not alone. My hopes were raised so high by the word 'refuted', and then
dashed so low by finding just a list, with no refutations at all.
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