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Utterly Humbled by Mystery (Richard Rohr)
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* irenic *
2006-12-21 05:23:44 UTC
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Utterly Humbled by Mystery
by Richard Rohr

Richard Rohr is founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation in
Albuquerque, N.M. He took his Franciscan vows in 1961, and was ordained as a
priest in 1970. Rohr is a frequent speaker and writer on issues of community
building, peace and justice. Center for Action and Contemplation

We love closure, resolution and clarity, while thinking that we are
people of 'faith'! How strange that the very word 'faith' has come to mean
its exact opposite.
Morning Edition, December 18, 2006 I believe in mystery and multiplicity.
To religious believers this may sound almost pagan. But I don't think so. My
very belief and experience of a loving and endlessly creative God has led me
to trust in both.

I've had the good fortune of teaching and preaching across much of the
globe, while also struggling to make sense of my experience in my own tiny
world. This life journey has led me to love mystery and not feel the need to
change it or make it un-mysterious. This has put me at odds with many other
believers I know who seem to need explanations for everything.

Religious belief has made me comfortable with ambiguity. "Hints and
guesses," as T.S. Eliot would say. I often spend the season of Lent in a
hermitage, where I live alone for the whole 40 days. The more I am alone
with the Alone, the more I surrender to ambivalence, to happy contradictions
and seeming inconsistencies in myself and almost everything else, including
God. Paradoxes don't scare me anymore.

When I was young, I couldn't tolerate such ambiguity. My education had
trained me to have a lust for answers and explanations. Now, at age 63, it's
all quite different. I no longer believe this is a quid pro quo universe --
I've counseled too many prisoners, worked with too many failed marriages,
faced my own dilemmas too many times and been loved gratuitously after too
many failures.

Whenever I think there's a perfect pattern, further reading and study reveal
an exception. Whenever I want to say "only" or "always," someone or
something proves me wrong. My scientist friends have come up with things
like "principles of uncertainty" and dark holes. They're willing to live
inside imagined hypotheses and theories. But many religious folks insist on
answers that are always true. We love closure, resolution and clarity, while
thinking that we are people of "faith"! How strange that the very word
"faith" has come to mean its exact opposite.

People who have really met the Holy are always humble. It's the people who
don't know who usually pretend that they do. People who've had any genuine
spiritual experience always know they don't know. They are utterly humbled
before mystery. They are in awe before the abyss of it all, in wonder at
eternity and depth, and a Love, which is incomprehensible to the mind. It is
a litmus test for authentic God experience, and is -- quite sadly -- absent
from much of our religious conversation today. My belief and comfort is in
the depths of Mystery, which should be the very task of religion.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6631954

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Shalom! Rowland Croucher

'It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know
for sure that just ain't so' (Mark Twain)

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zach
2006-12-22 04:09:49 UTC
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Utterly Humbled by Mystery
Whenever I think there's a perfect pattern, further reading and study reveal
an exception. Whenever I want to say "only" or "always," someone or
something proves me wrong. My scientist friends have come up with things
like "principles of uncertainty" and dark holes. They're willing to live
inside imagined hypotheses and theories. But many religious folks insist on
answers that are always true.
Science deals in fact, not allegory. It is sloppy and shallow
philosophizing that attempts to highjack scientific method in order to
support the unprovable.
v***@gmail.com
2006-12-22 22:13:37 UTC
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I'm an engineer who critically challenges just about everything.
Science/logic is a tool that I use to bring rational order to my little
universe and enable me to cope with everyday challenges of my
profession. In my world, 1 cannot be 0, yes cannot be no, etc. Its the
way I have been taught to see things, and it invariably works for me in
my little universe.

Yet,

I have "faith" that my universe is small in comparison to how big and
complex it really is. I have "faith" that my intellect is too simple to
grasp a concept like 1 can equal 0, or yes can equal no. If anything is
possible, then everything is possible (perfection has no limitations,
and any "God" that is subject to limitations can't be perfect - at
least, that's the way I see it).

So..

If there aren't limitations, then simultaenous contradicting realities
can coexist, even if my simple mind can't rationalize it. Everyone is
right! I can believe in the Christian God, the God of Abraham, the
family of Gods on Mt Olympus or whatever.

Go have faith in what you wish - just don't claim that your's is the
only "truth".

Happy Holidays to you all!!
Post by zach
Science deals in fact, not allegory. It is sloppy and shallow
philosophizing that attempts to highjack scientific method in order to
support the unprovable.
qquito
2006-12-22 04:09:50 UTC
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What if since eons ago the mankind had humbled himself in front of the
mystery of thunders and lightnings satisfied with the thought that they
were signs of God having some fun and refrained himself from any
further inquiry?
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