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Jesus is the holiday Light
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Terence Nesbit
2008-12-22 02:54:19 UTC
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I have a couple of questions that I hope you will think about. If Jesus =
said to eat and drink in remembrance of me, why do Christians praise his =
birth? Jesus never said to sing praises to him or his parents. And he =
surely did not say to do so while ignoring God.

A second question is who are the nicolaitanes? If the nicolaitanes are =
those that praise Jesus, his mother or anyone else besides God, why do =
what God hates? Of course, the most obvious reason for God's hatred of =
"the season" is that it is just a season, something that is used to =
offset the gluttony and actions done throughout the year. God expects =
charity all year round.

A further question is who else could the nicolaitanes be? We know that =
the nicolaitanes do not worship idols, or even the devil, because they =
are not included in those groups that are charged with worshipping idols =
or doing evil in Revelations (even though they are under the same =
penumbra of a church in some instances). To this end, how many sermons =
mention God, and if so beyond just in passing, when the Christmas, or =
even Easter, season and sermon are preached? Note this too: His =
parents were not told to praise him even if the angels were told to =
praise him, and they probably meant God as does John in the first =
Chapter in verses 3-5.

Otherwise there is nothing wrong with the holiday. The non-secular =
reason for having this holiday would not be objected to by God. God is =
someone that appreciates the little steps taken to ease the suffering of =
others, and he would not object to the spreading of joy even when he =
desires even more.
B
2009-01-02 20:48:14 UTC
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I have a couple of questions that I hope you will think about. If Jesus =3D
said to eat and drink in remembrance of me, why do Christians praise his =3D
birth? =A0Jesus never said to sing praises to him or his parents. =A0And he =3D
surely did not say to do so while ignoring God.
A second question is who are the nicolaitanes? =A0If the nicolaitanes are =3D
those that praise Jesus, his mother or anyone else besides God, why do =3D
what God hates? =A0Of course, the most obvious reason for God's hatred of =3D
"the season" is that it is just a season, something that is used to =3D
offset the gluttony and actions done throughout the year. =A0God expects =3D
charity all year round.
A further question is who else could the nicolaitanes be? =A0We know that =3D
the nicolaitanes do not worship idols, or even the devil, because they =3D
are not included in those groups that are charged with worshipping idols =3D
or doing evil in Revelations (even though they are under the same =3D
penumbra of a church in some instances). =A0To this end, how many sermons =3D
mention God, and if so beyond just in passing, when the Christmas, or =3D
even Easter, season and sermon are preached? =A0Note this too: =A0His =3D
parents were not told to praise him even if the angels were told to =3D
praise him, and they probably meant God as does John in the first =3D
Chapter in verses 3-5.
Otherwise there is nothing wrong with the holiday. =A0The non-secular =3D
reason for having this holiday would not be objected to by God. =A0God is =3D
someone that appreciates the little steps taken to ease the suffering of =3D
others, and he would not object to the spreading of joy even when he =3D
desires even more.
I worship the Christ in all..God and the birth of that perfect
teacher ,Jesus. He was not born on this day supposedly but it was
placed ontop to try and drive people away from Saturnalia...a pagan
festival to Roman Gods. I see the symbolic rebirth of the sun...being
replaced by the "son"....it is fine by me as long as it does not put
down the pagans. We all have paths to God...some are meandering and
some are straight ...we all get there however.
In my opinion.
Bren

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